I'd get a deposit for doing the inventory FIRST. I'd hire Blackwater to do that inventory.
On Jun 12, 5:59 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Good response from someone who should know > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:John and Beth <[email protected]>To:dick thompson > <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT)Local:Fri, > Jun 12 2009 5:49 pmSubject:Re: I think the first commenter here has it right > > This action actually started under the Clinton Administration and was > continued (sporadically) under the Bush Administration. Under the Bush > Admin, many smaller VFW and AmLegion posts surrendered their rifles and such > because they were being required to provide state-of-the-art arms room > security for bolt-action rifles, many of which had been deactivated to "blank > only" status. > > That said - depending on how the weapons were obtained, they were, and > remain, USGOV property. > > Doesn't mean that they need to get stupid about it. > > John of Argghhh! > (www.thedonovan.com) > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: dick thompson <[email protected]> > Subject: I think the first commenter here has it right > To: [email protected], "MERLE MCKINZIE" <[email protected]>, > "Claguerra245" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "Michael Kerwin" > <[email protected]>, [email protected], "TheAnchoress" > <[email protected]>, "Jim Miller" <[email protected]>, > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], "Thomas Blumer" > <[email protected]>, "John and Beth" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:25 PM > > Their property? It isn't "their property." Some asshole staff sergeant > asserting ownership of decommissioned weapons that were clearly GIVEN > to these VFW posts doesn't mean anything. And if Obama continues this > transparent inventorying of weapons in the hands of private citizens > with this ploy, I'd send his administration bills for hundreds of > thousands of dollars from each VFW post for the storage and security > of "government property." Plus interest. > > On Jun 12, 5:00 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Travis, > > > If it is still government property why shouldn't they know where their > > property is? > > > On Jun 12, 1:06 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: *Travis* > > > Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2009 > > > Subject: Government Demands Inventory of ALL Weapons at Veterans of > > > Foreign > > > Wars Posts > > > > > > > Does no one else find this peculiar? > > > > > > > B > > > > > > >http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-demands-inventory-of-all-vfw-we<http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-demands-inventory-of-all-vfw-w...> > > > aponshtml > > > > > > > Government Demands Inventory of All VFW Weapons Kurt Nimmo > > > > > > > Prisonplanet.com June 9, 2009 > > > > > > > An Infowars reader has passed along an email sent to VFW commanders by > > > > > > > the Assistant Adjutant of the Department of Texas Veterans of Foreign > > > > > > > Wars indicating the U.S. Army TACOM (Tactical Army Command) is > > > > > > > demanding an inventory of all weapons held by VFW posts. > > > > > > > Email sent to VFW commanders > > > > > > > Inventory form > > > > > > > “While you may have had possession of this equipment for 20, 40, 60 or > > > > > > > 100 years,” the email states, “it still belongs to the U.S. Military.” > > > > > > > The email arrived with an inventory attachment where all weapons are > > > > > > > to be listed and the document sent to the Department of Texas Veterans > > > > > > > of Foreign Wars. “This form will then be bounced off of the central > > > > > > > database of all Texas VFW Posts at U.S. Army TACOM to verify serial > > > > > > > numbers of each item that has been issued. This is a very extensive > > > > > > > list and goes back to before the VFW was founded. So if you have a > > > > > > > cannon from the Spanish-American War it’s on the list.” > > > > > > > Many VFW halls around the country have decommissioned military weapons > > > > > > > on their properties along with uniforms, statues and flags from every > > > > > > > era. It is a common practice for VFW honor guard units to use M-1 > > > > > > > rifles made into blank firing devices for salutes at parades and > > > > > > > funerals. Weapons held by VFW posts are generally kept under lock and key > > > in storage rooms. > > > > > > > TACOM is not simply interested in blank firing devices and antique > > > > > > > rifles and pistols, however. “Weapons and Equipment consist of but is > > > > > > > not limited to, Rifles, Pistols, Mortars, Artillery, Tanks, Vehicles, > > > > > > > Aircraft, Missiles Aircraft Carriers (sic), etc, from any period.” > > > > > > > According to the email, any attempt “hide” the items will be dealt > > > > > > > with severely. “Please do not try and hide this as all weapons and > > > > > > > equipment not accounted for will be reported to the FBI and BATF as > > > > > > > stolen military equipment,” writes Dan West, retired Sgt. USMC. “I am > > > > > > > hopeful that I need not remind anyone of the severity of punishment > > > > > > > that can be administered or the legal bills resulting from individuals > > > > > > > or elected officers of the Post having possession of stolen military > > > > > > > weapons.” > > > > > > > The inventory of weapons at VFW posts is further evidence the > > > > > > > government does not trust veterans, even with antiquated and > > > > > > > non-functioning military equipment used primarily for display and > > > historical purposes. > > > > > > > Last month the government took the unprecedented step of requiring > > > > > > > soldiers at Fort Campbell in Kentucky to disclose all of their > > > > > > > privately owned weapons and gun licenses. > > > > > > > “Military officials insist the policy is not connected to a recent > > > > > > > controversial Department of Homeland Security report that warned > > > > > > > disgruntled veterans could pose a national security threat. Rather, > > > > > > > the inventory of private guns is aimed at stemming what the Army > > > > > > > claims is an increasing number of accidental discharges by gun-toting > > > > > > > soldiers,” NewsMax reported on May 5. WorldNetDaily reported that Fort > > > > > > > Bliss in Texas had informed soldiers who live off the premises to > > > > > > > provide descriptions, serial numbers, calibers, makes and models of > > > > > > > any of the guns they own privately. > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > > > > > > (for which the officer who gave said instruction almost got his career > > > kicked in the ass, the order and or letter of instruction was recinded > > > immeidately At Ft. Campbell) the military has no legal authority over > > > private property or the right to seperate a citizen or a solider from > > > their > > > constitutional rights when they are off post which is not under the > > > jurisdiction of the military. > > > > > > > in addition if such instruction was given at Ft. Bliss it was illegal. It > > > does not conform to the standards and practices of the UCMJ and deprives > > > individual soldiers of rights without due process....... > > > > > > > If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we > > > are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the > > > intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. > > > … We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to > > > tolerate the intolerant. –Sir Karl Popper > > > > > > > __,_._,___ > > > > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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