Unless they produce a warrant, tell them to shove it. Politely. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote:
> > Travus, > > Asking implies the right to refuse permission. Was the ATF asking or > issuing an order? THAT is the important issue. > Just so long as they are asking I can tell them to get the fuck off > my porch and piss off. Which i most certainly would. > > On Jun 23, 4:06 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: *Travis* > > Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 > > Subject: In Border States, BATFE Asks: "May We See Your Guns?" > > > > Illegal, un-Constitutional and a bad idea. BATF should be ashamed of > > itself. > > > > B > > > > http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4990 > > > > In Border States, BATFE Asks: "May We See Your Guns?" Friday, June > 19, > > 2009 > > > > NRA-ILA has recently received several calls from NRA members in border > > states who have been visited or called by agents of the Bureau of > Alcohol, > > Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In some cases, agents have asked to > enter > > these people's homes, and requested serial numbers of all firearms the > > members possess. > > > > In each case, the agents were making inquiries based on the number of > > firearms these NRA members had recently bought, and in some cases the > agents > > said they were asking because the members had bought types of guns that > are > > frequently recovered in Mexico. > > > > This kind of questioning may or may not be part of a legitimate criminal > > investigation. For example, when BATFE traces a gun seized after use in > a > > crime, manufacturers' and dealers' records will normally lead to the > first > > retail buyer of that gun, and investigators will have to interview the > buyer > > to find out how the gun ended up in criminal hands. But in other cases, > the > > questioning may simply be based on information in dealers' records, with > > agents trying to "profile" potentially suspicious purchases. > > > > On the other hand, some of the agents have used heavy-handed tactics. > One > > reportedly demanded that a gun owner return home early from a business > trip, > > while another threatened to "report" an NRA member as "refusing to > > cooperate." That kind of behavior is outrageous and unprofessional. > > > > Whether agents act appropriately or not, concerned gun owners should > > remember that all constitutional protections apply. Answering questions > in > > this type of investigation is generally an individual choice. Most > > importantly, there are only a few relatively rare exceptions to the > general > > Fourth Amendment requirement that law enforcement officials need a > warrant > > to enter a home without the residents' consent. There is nothing wrong > with > > politely, but firmly, asserting your rights. > > If BATFE contacts you and you have any question about how to respond, you > > may want to consult a local attorney. NRA members may also call > NRA-ILA's > > Office of Legislative Counsel at (703) 267-1161 for further > > information. Whether > > contacting a local attorney or NRA, be sure to provide as many details as > > possible, including the date, time, and location, agent's name, and > specific > > questions asked. > > > > One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or > > else shut up. -- Arthur Koestler > > > > __,_._,___ > > > > -- > > *~@):~{> > > > > -- > > *~@):~{> > > > -- *~@):~{> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
