ConJack, Most interesting is that the only way this could be done is by using laws, regulations and the Agency (DHS) created by George Bush and passed by a Republican Congress. Quite ironic. Ask ol' Travis if the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is still legal and in effect and if not why not. Bet he dosen't answer. :-)
On Jun 26, 7:02 pm, ConservativeJack <[email protected]> wrote: > I remember this rumor from when the Left was saying Bush was going to > do it. Disappointing to see our side spreading the same manure... > > On Jun 26, 11:47 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From: *Travis* > > Date: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 > > Subject: HOMELAND SECURITY AND US ARMY PLAN INVASION OF STATES > > >http://www.newswithviews.com/BreakingNews/breaking166.htm > > > *HOMELAND SECURITY AND US ARMY PLAN INVASION OF STATES* > > > Posted 1:00 AM Eastern > > by NWV News, Jim Kouri > > June 26, 2009 > > © 2008 NewsWithViews.com > > > The Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security recently hosted a > > teleconference for law enforcement agencies and associations such as the > > National Association of Chiefs of Police to discuss the Obama > > Administration's interest in using the military during "emergencies." > > > Fortunately, NewsWithViews.com had exclusive access to the discussion and > > the explanations by Homeland Security and Defense Departments officials. > > > Officials announced during the teleconference that the Department of > > Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator W. > > Craig Fugate met with the Commander, US Northern Command, General Gene > > Renuart, to discuss "pre-disaster planning, response and recovery in support > > of the federal response to the 2009 hurricane season as well as wild fires, > > floods and other potential disasters." > > > The meeting reinforced the important relationship between the two > > organizations and focused on the operational role of US Northern Command and > > what resources and skills they bring to any major Federal effort related to > > all-hazards preparedness, response, recovery and mitigation. It was also an > > opportunity to meet operational leaders who would fill key positions in > > those support efforts. > > > "NORTHCOM plays a vital role in disaster response in support of state and > > local officials," Fugate said. "I am impressed by their commitment to > > teamwork and interoperability. They are leaning forward and are > > solutions-oriented partners among the nation's emergency response team." > > > "We are committed to teaming with and supporting our civilian partners," > > added Renuart. "If our federal partners, state and local officials are > > successful in responding to contingency operations, then ultimately we are > > successful. We look forward to our continued collaboration and cooperation." > > > However, many law enforcement executives and organizations went on the > > record saying they did not appreciate the prospect of federal troops > > usurping the authority of local and state law enforcement > > agencies<http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm>or the role of > > the National Guard unit currently under the control of > > governors. > > > "My initial reaction is: why are we allowing federal troops to basically > > invade the sovereignty of individual states when each state has its own law > > enforcement agencies and each state possesses an armed and trained National > > Guard and, in the case of some states such as New York, a trained militia?" > > according to New York police officer Edna Aquino. > > > "We have not used armed federal troops in New York since the Civil War when > > Union troops and Navy battleships attacked dissenters who opposed > > conscription by the Union Army," she added. > > > According to officials from the Homeland Security Department, FEMA and > > Northern Command share a common interest and a unified approach to disaster > > response and recovery. > > > "Both organizations also understand that the most effective plans to save > > lives and protect property begins with preparedness. This meeting was an > > important stepping stone to ensure mutual preparedness and effective > > planning in support of state and local officials," said one official. > > > Homeland Security Department officials offered these two rationales for > > their joint ventures with the Department of Defense: > > > "Emergency preparedness is everyone's responsibility. Everyone should have a > > personal response plan for a disaster, everyone should know who their first > > responders are at the local and state level, and everyone should be prepared > > to be self-sufficient for at least the first 72 hours. > > > "FEMA's mission is to support our citizens and first responders to ensure > > that as a nation we work together to build, sustain, and improve our > > capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and > > mitigate all > > hazards<http://www.infowars.com/neocon-memo-says-fourth-amendment-does-not-ap...>." > > > Political strategist Mike Baker is disturbed over this latest "emergency > > plan" designed to allow federal troops to operate freely within US borders. > > > "This is a constitutionally unsound development for our nation. While > > President Barack Obama and his ilk worry about how America's military is > > perceived by other nations and are concerned with how we treat enemies, they > > seem to be willing to use extreme measures against their own citizens. > > Will we witness another Branch Davidian massacre in the name of 'emergency > > response' or other rationale? It's not a positive development for this > > nation," said Baker. > > > Northcom was established about a year after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist > > attacks and is responsible for an area of operations that includes the > > United States, Canada and Mexico. It serves as a "one-stop-shopping" point > > for military support in case of an attack on American soil. However, > > according to officials speaking during the teleconference, the Obama > > Administration is expanding that role to include natural disasters or > > emergencies that were once the domain of state and local authorities. > > > Over the years, according to Baker, the federal government has expanded its > > role and even included other nations in operational plans within the US. For > > example NORAD is a joint US-Canadian command established 51 years ago to > > defend against nuclear-armed Soviet aircraft entering North American > > airspace. Decades later, the command's mission has expanded to include early > > detection of threats via air, space, land and sea. > > > The sheer number of participants speaks to NORAD's level of preparation and > > coordination to operate within US borders. Teaming up to deal with > > emergencies are American and Canadian NORAD agents, the U.S. Federal > > Aviation Administration, U.S. Transportation Security Administration, Royal > > Canadian Mounted Police, NAV Canada, the White House, U.S. Departments of > > Defense and Homeland Security. > > > <http://www.newswithviews.com/DonateNWV.htm> > > > "This is not something we should be celebrating. This is something we as > > Americans should fear," states another NYPD officer. > > > "If states do not have the capability to respond on their own to a hurricane > > or earthquake, then perhaps they should increase their capabilities or > > change their leadership," said Det. Benny Cardoza. > > > <[email protected]?subject=subscribe&body=Please%20add%20me%20to%20your%20mailing%20list.%20%20We%20will%20keep%20your%20information%20private.> > > > "Using Hurricane Katrina as an excuse to increase federal authority in the > > affairs of individual states is a sorry excuse and one that should be > > shunned by citizens and local cops," states the decorated cop. > > > One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or > > else shut up. -- Arthur Koestler > > > __,_._,___ > > > -- > > *~@):~{> > > > -- > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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