yes but do either of you have plans to bomb or kill any Americans for religious or ethnic reasons, anytime soon?
In any case, I think the legislation is just political grand-standing. She has to know it won't pass. On Jun 30, 10:56 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > That is two of us. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:09 AM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > As a "TERRORIST" that favors local government over state or federal, I > > should probably be put on some kind of list. My ideas are definitely > > a threat to the established order of ruling the unthinking masses. > > > On Jun 29, 11:05 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: *Travis* > > > Date: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 > > > Subject: Corrupt Representative's Amendment to Label Americans > > Terrorists > > > >http://www.examiner.com/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Re... > > > > Rep. Hastings' defense amendment to label Americans 'terrorists' > > > June 29, 6:39 AM · Jim Kouri - Law Enforcement Examiner > > > > Impeached Florida judge -- now a Democrat Party member of the House of > > > Representatives -- Rep. Alcee Hastings introduced what some claim is a > > > disturbing piece of legislation. The new bill calls for the Attorney > > General > > > to have discretion over who is called a terrorist and what groups will be > > > listed and treated as terrorist groups. > > > > In an unclassified report entitled "Rightwing Extremism: Current > > Economic > > > and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and > > > Recruitment," Secretary for Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and her > > > agency included the following description of "extremists:" > > > > *"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into > > those > > > groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based > > on > > > hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that > > are > > > mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or > > > local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may > > include > > > groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as > > > opposition to abortion or immigration."* > > > > On Thursday, Congressman Trent Franks (R-AZ) made the following remarks > > on > > > the House Floor regarding Congressman Alcee Hastings’ (D-FL) amendment to > > > the National Defense Authorization bill: > > > > "The Hastings Amendment to the National Defense Authorization bill (which > > > now is being considered *en bloc*) prohibits the recruitment, enlistment, > > or > > > retention of persons with known affiliations to "groups determined by the > > > Attorney General to be of a violent, extremist nature." > > > > "Members on both sides of the aisle support the purpose of this amendment > > > because we recognize that there are legitimate concerns about the > > enlistment > > > of persons who may seek to use their military training to cause harm to > > > innocents, but we should take pause to consider the breadth of this > > > amendment carefully. I just want to express concern about the language > > of > > > this amendment, and my concerns are shared by many in this House. > > > > "While the amendment seeks to keep gang members and members of violent > > > groups out of the military, the amendment by its language is much more > > > broad. Specifically, it confers upon the Attorney General the ability to > > > categorize groups as hate groups, and this sounds an alarm for many of us > > > because of the recent shocking and offensive report released by the > > > Department of Homeland Security which labeled, arguably, a majority of > > > Americans as "extremists." > > > > "I take extreme offense that the federal government -- through a report > > > issued under the authority of a Cabinet-level official -- would dare to > > > categorize people who are "dedicated to a single issue, such as > > opposition > > > or abortion or immigration" as "right-wing extremists" and it begs the > > > question of whether the Attorney General, under Mr. Hastings' Amendment, > > can > > > look to the Napolitano report to decide who is an extremist, or can make > > the > > > same categorization of the majority of Americans as extremists who may > > then > > > be kept from joining the military, or who may be discharged. > > > > "The desire to risk one's life on foreign soil for one's country may well > > be > > > considered "extreme." To spill blood on a foreign battlefield in the > > name > > > of freedom requires extreme devotion. > > > > "This amendment could have been written in a way that is more consistent > > > with current DOD policy, which prohibits military personnel from > > > participating in "organizations that espouse supremacist causes; or > > attempt > > > to create illegal discrimination based on race, creed, color, sex, > > religion, > > > or national origin..." > > > > "The military has many laws and regulations in place to counter racism > > and > > > the enlistment of racist militants. Recruits must be thoroughly vetted, > > and > > > must even explain the symbolism behind their tattoos, body markings and > > > writings. I understand that there is concern that the rules and > > regulations > > > governing vetting of recruits are not being followed as vigilantly as > > they > > > could be, and this is a legitimate cause for concern. At the same time, > > > this is a call for better enforcement of the laws in place, rather than a > > > sweeping categorization of persons as "extremists," as we saw in Janet > > > Napolitano's agency's report. > > > > "I want to state unequivocally that I believe that it is not the intent > > of > > > this Congress to label pro-lifers, federalism proponents, and > > > pro-immigration enforcement groups and their affiliates as extremists > > under > > > the bill. My colleagues on the other side of the aisle should make a > > strong > > > effort to assuage these concerns and make our intentions clear. If the > > > intent of this amendment is to go after citizens because of their > > political > > > views and moral convictions, then the amendment is unconstitutional. I > > hope > > > that the sponsor of the Amendment will make clear tonight that this is > > not > > > the intent." > > > > *Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National > > > Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media > > > Alliance (thenma.org). In addition, he's the new editor for the House > > > Conservatives Fund's weblog. Kouri also serves as political advisor for > > Emmy > > > and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty. > > > > He's former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington > > Heights > > > nicknamed "Crack City" by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. > > In > > > addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey > > university > > > and director of security for several major organizations. He's also > > served > > > on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers > > > throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security > > > magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and > > > others. He's a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com and PHXnews.com. > > > He's also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, > > > MichNews.Com, and he's syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He's appeared as > > > on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows > > including > > > Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc. > > > > * > > > > __,_._,___ > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{> > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{> > > > > naco-150x159(2).jpg > > > 13KViewDownload > > > > DHS(2).jpg > > > 6KViewDownload > > -- > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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