He didn't get 'permission' ..... Its how they voted in the HOUSE THEN THE SENATE.
sILVER bELLE > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:41:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: Anyone see a problem with this logic_ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Richard, > > What has that to do with the question I posed to Travis concerning > treaties? > > On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, RICHARD BROWN <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Did the President of the United States get a UN Resolution to use > > force, or did he get permission from the U.S. Congress to use force > > when we invaded Kosovo? Did we have an exit strategy? Do we plan on > > letting them become self-governing? > > > > On Jul 7, 9:26 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Travis, > > > > > Tell us how many times this has happened in our entire history. > > > > > On Jul 7, 11:22 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dick: Do you know how many senators it actually takes to approve a > > > > treaty? > > > > > > Didn't think so. Try TWO (2). > > > > > > That is all. One (1) to preside over the senate and one (1) to vote > > > > yes. > > > > > > That one (1) vote YES is two-thirds (2/3) of the senators present (1) > > > > and > > > > voting (again 1). > > > > > > This was a grave mistake the founding fathers made when they did not > > > > make > > > > the vote a required two-thirds (2/3) of the senate. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM, dick thompson > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the > > > > > treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it > > > > > takes > > > > > both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done deal > > > > > if the > > > > > president signs it unless the senate also approves it. Guess they > > > > > forgot > > > > > that one. Of course they also tried to forget that when it came to > > > > > Kyoto > > > > > for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to implement a treaty > > > > > that the > > > > > Senate never ratified. Looks like another one coming along. > > > > > > > *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making > > > > > Powers: * Here's the relevant > > > > > section<http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: > > > > > > > He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the > > > > > Senate, to > > > > > make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; > > > > > > > The Obama administration is finding that limitation > > > > > inconvenient<http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, > > > > > and so they are thinking of "temporarily > > > > > bypassing"<http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...>the > > > > > Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with > > > > > the > > > > > Russians on limiting nuclear arms. > > > > > > > I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any > > > > > provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or > > > > > otherwise, that > > > > > limit on his treaty-making powers. > > > > > > > Senator Byrd — among others — isn't going to like this one little bit. > > > > > - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 > > > > > [link]<http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578> > > > > > > -- > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Spread the word when you add celeb photos to your e-mails. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_celebrity_photos1_072009&cat=celebrity --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
