In what way did Palin use which daughter? All candidates have their children appear at events
How is she a complete idiot and yet has managed to achieve more than you have? On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Frederick The Moderate < [email protected]> wrote: > > I absolutely agree that the MSM (except FOX) was biased toward Obama > during the elections. > I still think Palin is a complete idiot who made a prop out of her > daughter at the worst possible time in that young girls life, but > there is no doubt the media was biased during the elections. > I think a lot of the reason for the biased was that so many of the > reporters just plain liked the Dem ticket better, personally. Imagine > if you had to cover Obama during the campaign and be positive and > objective! I bet it wouldn't be easy for you. > > On Jul 12, 1:56 pm, Perplexed <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is BY FAR the best account I've seen from anyone detailing the > > atrocious liberal media bias in the 2008 presidential election. > > > > The part detailing the VP debate is excellent and contains many > > criticisms I'd NEVER read about Biden's performance that night... > > > > Gov. Palin certainly had her sketchy moments that night. On one > > occasion, she called her opponent "Senator O'Biden." She referred > > twice to the top U.S. military officer in Afghanistan as "General > > McClellan." (His name is David McKiernan). She claimed as mayor to > > have reduced taxes "every year I was in office," an assertion that is > > accurate only if one ignores sales tax increases. Likewise, she > > maintained that McCain's $5,000 tax credit for health coverage was > > "budget-neutral," which is only possible by repealing the laws of > > mathematics. She gave McCain more credit than he was due in blowing > > the whistle on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, while repeating a > > misleading claim against Obama used by Hillary Clinton and McCain on > > an energy bill. She also exaggerated her own accomplishment regarding > > a $40 billion proposed pipeline in Alaska. > > > > Sen. Biden, however, was in a place by himself when it came to bogus > > claims, absurd contentions, and flights of rhetorical fancy. He threw > > out several assertions that were so preposterous that – had Palin made > > them – they would have prompted immediate calls for McCain to dump her > > from the ticket. > > The good senator from Delaware warmed up slowly, erroneously claiming > > that McCain voted with Obama on a budget resolution, and asserting > > wrongly that Obama wanted to return to the Reagan-era marginal income > > tax rates. He also embarked on an appallingly wrongheaded monologue > > about the constitutional history of the vice presidency. But when the > > talk turned to national security, presumably Biden's purported area of > > expertise, he went completely off the grid. > > > > • "John McCain voted against a Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty that > > every Republican has supported," Biden stated. (Actually, in a 1999 > > vote in Congress, McCain sided with 50 other Republicans to kill the > > treaty. Only four joined the Democrats.) • "Pakistan already has > > deployed nuclear weapons," Biden said. "Pakistan's weapons can already > > hit Israel and the Mediterranean." (Pakistan has no known > > intercontinental missiles. The range of its weapons is thought to be > > 1,000 miles – halfway to Israel.) > > > > • "When we kicked--along with France--we kicked Hezbollah out of > > Lebanon, I said and Barack said, 'Move NATO forces in there. Fill the > > vacuum, because if you don't...Hezbollah will control it.'" Biden > > recalled. "Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the > > government in the country immediately to the north of Israel." (Except > > that the U.S. never kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon or anywhere else. > > They've been entrenched in Lebanon since 1982. Actually, Hezbollah, > > insofar as it was responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing at the > > Marine barracks that killed 241 U.S. servicemen, kicked America out of > > Lebanon, not the other way around.) > > > > • "The president...insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I > > said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, 'Big mistake. Hamas will > > win. You'll legitimize them.' What happened? Hamas won," Biden said. > > (Only the last two words of Biden's strange soliloquy are true. The > > rest are false. For one thing, Fatah controls the West Bank. Biden was > > thinking of Gaza. Secondly, neither Biden nor Obama predicted the 2006 > > victory for Hamas in Gaza's legislative elections. Third, McCain and > > Obama – but not Biden -- signed a letter urging the president to > > pressure Palestinians to require that candidates adhere to democratic > > principles before being allowed to run for office. Fourth, Biden > > served as an election observer and later wrote an article expressing > > high praise for Bush's actions. To sum up: One factual error and three > > fibs in only 31 words. Pretty impressive, in its way.) > > > > • "With Afghanistan, facts matter...we spend more money in three weeks > > on combat in Iraq than we spend on the entirety of the last seven > > years that we have been in Afghanistan. Let me say that again..." (He > > did say it again, but that didn't make it true. It's wildly and > > weirdly off the mark. Yes, facts matter. The facts here were that at > > the time Biden was speaking, the U.S. had spent $172 billion in > > Afghanistan. The Iraq War consumes between $7 billion and $8 billion > > every three weeks. Biden's math was off by 2,000 percent.) > > > > • "Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He > > did not say (he'd) sit down with Ahmadinejad." (He most certainly did. > > And among those who criticized him at the time for it was Joe Biden, > > who told Byron York of National Review that the idea of a president > > meeting with the likes of the Iranian president or Hugo Chavez was > > "naïve.") > > > > Those were alarming mistakes. To me Biden's most discordant claims > > concerned his Animal House-like history lecture about the office of > > the vice president. It came while Biden was dressing down Dick Cheney, > > who was not present, for supposedly being unfamiliar with the > > Constitution. "The idea (that) he doesn't realize that Article I of > > the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United > > States – that's the executive branch – he works in the executive > > branch," Biden said. "He should understand that. Everyone should > > understand that. And the primary role of the vice president of the > > United States is to support the president of the United States of > > America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, > > and, as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time > > when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit....He > > has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the > > legislative branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to > > aggrandize the power of a unitary executive, and look where it has > > gotten us." > > > > Lord, would Tina Fey have had fun with this jumble of misinformation – > > if only Palin had said it! Article I defines the legislative, not > > executive, branch. The vice president is, indeed, mentioned there. > > What Biden finds "explicit," hasn't been so to previous vice > > presidents or to most constitutional scholars. Prior to the 20th > > century, vice presidents didn't even have offices at the White House > > compound – they were housed in the Capitol. The notion that a veep's > > constitutional authority is to provide advice to a president springs > > from Biden's brow; it certainly isn't mentioned, or even contemplated, > > in the Constitution, which doesn't even say whether the vice president > > should receive a salary. > > Should Joe Biden have known this stuff? Since he chaired the Senate > > Judiciary Committee, you'd hope so. But even if he didn't, you'd think > > it would be news when he unleashed a veritable fount of misinformation > > to impugn Palin's knowledge of the federal system while attacking a > > sitting vice president. It barely rated a mention in the collective > > mainstream media. > > > > http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/08/sarah-barracuda-palin-and-the... > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
