Frederick, This suit is NOT about politics... it is about actual authority and base requirements to be President.... a birth certificate / long form. It costs under 20 Bucks.
On Jul 16, 12:49 am, Frederick The Moderate <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Sage, that's all swell and peachy but the point wa that > Conservatives made it clear in 2006 "A soldier should never let his > views on politics, affect his duty to country". Obama has not been > impeached. We have this thing here called "innocent until proven > guilty". Right now, Obama has been found guilty of nothing. Or > arrested, removed, impreached etc... Or perhaps I'm wrong - care to > show me a verdict on lexis-nexus? No? Didn't think so. Therefore the > soldier is letting his political views / opinions, and NOT established > fact, interfere with his duty. Once ANY Superior officer told him to > report for duty, he was in derilection and therefore violating the > UCMJ. There is no silver bullet! lol. > Oh, and did I mention he blew his clearance? Damn THAT's gonna hurt > his income but fortunately his attorney convinced him this is a good > idea when there's so much work out there. Oops. > > On Jul 15, 11:11 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Iraq war is & was legal mod-man. It was > > approved by the congress of the USA. If it is not legal why was no > > one arrested, impeached, removed, etc. including the U.S. congress? > > There is no silver bullet ! > > All Obama has to do is present a legitimate birth certificate and > > there would be no problem. > > > *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > > > On Jul 16, 12:49 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Funny, I didn't see anything in the entire article about the fact that > > > anyone engaged in a lawsuit against the US or US Military > > > automatically forfeits their security clearance. And guess what you > > > need to work for Simtech as a systems engineer for the DoD? I wonder > > > if Cook's brilliant lawyer went over that little tidbit with him in > > > advance? I bet she collected her fee in advance. > > > Funny thing is, when that soldier refused to go to Iraq in 2006, > > > stating that under the WPA it was an illegal war, Rush and all the > > > Conservatives cried about how a soldier's duty should "never be > > > questioned due to political beliefs. Otherwise, every soldier who was > > > of the party not in power could walk off their posts for some reason." > > > Doesn't seem to be their sentiment now... > > > > On Jul 15, 9:02 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044 > > > > > Pentagon orders soldier fired for challenging prez > > > > Army warrior terminated from job after questioning Obama eligibility > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > Posted: July 15, 2009 > > > > 3:08 pm Eastern > > > > > By Chelsea Schilling and Joe Kovacs > > > > © 2009 WorldNetDaily > > > > > [image:http://www.wnd.com/images/orlytaitz1.jpg] > > > > Dr. Orly Taitz > > > > > The Department of Defense has compelled a private employer to fire a > > > > U.S. > > > > Army Reserve major from his civilian job after he had his military > > > > deployment orders revoked for arguing he should not be required to serve > > > > under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office. > > > > > According to the CEO of Simtech Inc., a private company contracted by > > > > the > > > > Defense Security > > > > Services<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044>, > > > > an agency of the Department of Defense, the federal government has > > > > compelled > > > > the termination of Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook. > > > > > Cook's attorney, Orly Taitz, wrote in her blog that Simtech CEO Larry > > > > Grice > > > > said he would try to find another position within the company for Cook, > > > > but > > > > nothing is currently available. > > > > > The Department of Defense does contracting in the general field of > > > > information technology/systems integration, at which Cook, a senior > > > > systems > > > > engineer and architect, was employed until taking a military leave of > > > > absence on July 10 in preparation for his deployment to Afghanistan. > > > > > "Grice told plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become 'nutty > > > > and > > > > crazy,' and that plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old > > > > position," Taitz wrote. > > > > > Grice made clear that it was Defense Security Services that had > > > > compelled > > > > Simtech to fire Cook, Taitz wrote. > > > > > According to the report, Grice told Cook "there was some gossip that > > > > 'people > > > > were disappointed in' the plaintiff because they thought he was > > > > manipulating > > > > his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes." > > > > > The Simtech CEO then discussed Cook's expectation of final paychecks, > > > > without any severance pay, and wished the soldier well. > > > > > Messages left with Grice's office had not been returned at the time of > > > > this > > > > report. > > > > > "A federal agency (such as the Department of Defense, acting through the > > > > Defense Security Services Agency) clearly violates the Whistleblower > > > > Protection Act if it takes or fails to take (or threatens to take or > > > > fail to > > > > take) a personnel action with respect to any employee or applicant > > > > because > > > > of any disclosure of information by the employee or applicant that he > > > > or she > > > > reasonably believes evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; > > > > gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a > > > > substantial and specific danger to public health or safety," Taitz > > > > wrote. > > > > > "What has happened in the present case of Stefan Frederick Cook is that > > > > a > > > > federal agency appears to have taken action against Stefan Frederick > > > > Cook's > > > > private employer > > > > <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044>, > > > > Simtech, Inc., which is a closely held corporation owned and operated by > > > > members of a single family, who are as much victims of the Department of > > > > Defense's heavy-handed interference with plaintiff Cook's private-sector > > > > employment <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044> as > > > > is > > > > plaintiff Cook himself." > > > > > As WND reported > > > > <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009>, > > > > Taitz confirmed to WND the military rescinded Maj. Cook's impending > > > > deployment orders. > > > > > "We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It > > > > means > > > > that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the > > > > military > > > > has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot > > > > fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!" > > > > > She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No > > > > reasons > > > > – just revoked." > > > > > A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an > > > > engineer<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044>who > > > > told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, is still > > > > scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m. > > > > > *Join the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his > > > > long-form, > > > > hospital-generated birth certificate! > > > > <http://www.wnd.com/obama_petition>* > > > > > "As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is [my] > > > > duty to > > > > gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, > > > > if > > > > President Obama is found not to be a 'natural-born citizen,' he is not > > > > eligible to be commander-in-chief," he told WND only hours after his > > > > case > > > > was originally filed. > > > > > *(Story continues below)* > > > > > [image: Click > > > > Here]<http://media.fastclick.net/w/click.here?cid=172329&mid=323982&sid=467...> > > > > > "[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command > > > > is > > > > illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal > > > > [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I > > > > would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said. > > > > > The order for the hearing in the federal court for the Middle District > > > > of > > > > Georgia from U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land said the hearing on the > > > > request for a temporary restraining order would be held Thursday. > > > > > *Want to turn up the pressure to learn the facts? Get your signs and > > > > postcards asking for the president's birth certificate documentation > > > > here.<http://shop.wnd.com/store/subdept.asp?SUBDEPARTMENT_ID=251> > > > > * > > > > > Cook said without a legitimate president as commander-in-chief, members > > > > of > > > > the U.S. military in overseas actions could be determined to be "war > > > > criminals and subject to prosecution." > > > > > He said the vast array of information about Obama that is not available > > > > to > > > > the public confirms to him "something is amiss." > > > > > "That and the fact the individual who is occupying the White House has > > > > not > > > > been entirely truthful with anybody," he said. "Every time anyone has > > > > made > > > > an inquiry, it has been either cast aside, it has been maligned, it has > > > > been > > > > laughed at or just dismissed summarily without further investigation. > > > > > "You know what. It would be so simple to solve. Just produce the > > > > long-form > > > > document, certificate of live birth," he said. > > > > > Cook said he was scheduled to report for duty today to deploy to > > > > Afghanistan > > > > as part of President Obama's plan to increase pressure of insurgent > > > > forces > > > > there. > > > > > He told WND he would be prepared for a backlash against him as a > > > > military > > > > officer, since members of the military swear to uphold and follow their > > > > orders. However, he noted that following an illegal order would be just > > > > as > > > > bad as failing to follow a legal order. > > > > > Before news of the orders being revoked were reported, MSNBC anchor > > > > Keith > > > > Olbermann tonight called Cook a "jackass" and Taitz a > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
