rigs,

Wonderful movie, seen it a number of times. Do I really need to tell
you that this is not France and not WWI? By "the military" I of course
meant the military of the United States and I meant now. I'm sorry if
that was not clear.

On Jul 17, 6:32 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Paths of Glory". A film. Rent it.
>
> On Jul 16, 8:26 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > D.B.
>
> > No, you are wrong. The military can revoke ANY order for ANY reason or
> > no reason at all. If one has the authority to issue an order than same
> > person/command has the authority to rescind or nullify that same
> > order.
>
> > On Jul 15, 9:35 am, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm not talking about the courts, but the military. By "revoking" a
> > > standing order without explanation or qualification can only mean one
> > > thing: the order was unlawful. And since the standing order was issued
> > > by the POTUS, the POTUS must be deemed unlawful, therefore defacto.
>
> > > Regarding the Constitution, there is no provision for enforcing the
> > > "natural born citizen" rule as it pertains to the president - as a
> > > Pennsylvania district court previously pointed out, paraphrasing;
> > > "Take the remedy up with the legislative."
>
> > > More importantly, no US court has entertained the material facts in
> > > this/these cases, citing instead the plaintiff's lack of "standing."
>
> > > The military certainly has "standing," although they're now beyond the
> > > court's jurisdiction. The military may, at their discretion, challenge
> > > the Commander-in-Chief via an emergency hearing in front of the
> > > Supreme Court. Or not, since there is no civilian law on the books to
> > > challenge the CIC's citizenship. But there is the lawful requirement.
>
> > > The civilian courts may choose ignore, potentially inviting a lawful
> > > military takeover. The military may also choose to ignore the
> > > underlying factor of the revocation, and risk an avalanche of
> > > additional challenges. Or, speaking plainly, use the revocation to run
> > > Obama out of office because he's not a citizen as required by the
> > > Constitution.
>
> > > On Jul 15, 9:41 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > d.b.
>
> > > > Don't be so fast. We all know the requirements for running for POTUS,
> > > > I have a copy of the Constituion on my desk. But who knows for sure
> > > > what agency has the responsibility to CONFIRM one's basic
> > > > qualifications? Is it the FEC? When I got my passport I had to provide
> > > > proof of my citizenship to a specific authority and no one else. Sure
> > > > as hell did not have to provide proof to the media or anyone else.
> > > > The President has a Passport, social security card, driver's license,
> > > > etc. How did he get those?
>
> > > > On Jul 15, 8:15 am, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Bottom line: the US Military is now required to stand down. Or request
> > > > > orders directly and exclusively from the Joint Chiefs - all civilian
> > > > > appointees are out.
>
> > > > > On Jul 15, 8:37 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > d.b,
>
> > > > > > The Major's reasoning is sound. Under the UCMJ folowiing the orders 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > a superior officer who who was not legally entitled to hold his 
> > > > > > rank/
> > > > > > office would be illegal.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:27 am, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > [Q] - A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders
> > > > > > > revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a
> > > > > > > president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
>
> > > > > > > His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has 
> > > > > > > rescinded
> > > > > > > his impending deployment orders.
>
> > > > > > > "We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with 
> > > > > > > excitement. "It
> > > > > > > means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > the military has directly responded by saying Obama is 
> > > > > > > illegitimate –
> > > > > > > and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
>
> > > > > > > She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. 
> > > > > > > No
> > > > > > > reasons – just revoked."
>
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