Perp, Why yes, if you are a full time stay-at-home-mom by difinition you would not have a paying job. Isn't that what I said?
On Jul 20, 9:01 pm, Perplexed <[email protected]> wrote: > And don't forget the stay-at-home- > mom. > ----------- > Millions of "stay at home moms" have multiple kids from multiple > fathers and live in subsidized housing and don't have jobs. Others do > crack all day long. Those "stay at home moms" who appear on a joint > tax return where taxes are paid should be able to vote. The others > who don't contribute to society but rather leech off of it shouldn't. > > On Jul 20, 12:46 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > I understand that. I was simply pointing out some obvious problems > > with it. > > So, a college student working part time while going to school would > > not get a vote? The under-employed? And don't forget the stay-at-home- > > mom. > > > And the rich have the greatest incentive to vote for laws that will > > increase their stock dividends at the expense of the workers. Endless > > war? Great idea, I've got lots of stock in the defense industry > > sector. Won't be my kids doing the fighting & dying. Increase minimum > > wage? Fuck that, will reduce profts of companies I have stock in. > > Clean air, clean water, safe working conditions? Fuck that, it will > > increase the cost of doing business. > > > Core problem here is that EVERYONE is thinking in the terms of short- > > term self interest. > > > On Jul 20, 11:24 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > I was simply tossing out an alternative interpretation. But, I guess > > > if someone is contributing to Social Security, they get a pass. If > > > they are below the full time minimum wage level, they should not. My > > > real point was that those who are a net drag on society are the ones > > > who have the greatest incentive to vote for welfare programs that > > > raise taxes, decrease our competitiveness and endanger future > > > generations. The questions you asked are just as reasonable as the > > > one I raised. But, make no mistake about it, our founding fathers > > > feared that the economic populism resulting from pure democracy, even > > > with the checks and balances they put in place, would be our biggest > > > risk to long-term success as a nation. We are living their worst > > > fears at the present. > > > > On Jul 20, 8:47 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > > > Ok,you have a right to your opinion. > > > > > Who gets to define "temporarily"? > > > > Who gets to define what a more appropiate ratio would be? > > > > The disabled would get no vote? > > > > How much in taxes do you think a Pfc. in the Marines pays? Does he > > > > "contribute to the economy" enough to "deserve" a vote? Take note you > > > > said "contribute to the economy" as the deciding factor NOT > > > > "contribute to the safety or stability". > > > > How about a stay-at-home-mom, raising her family? No vote for her? > > > > > On Jul 20, 9:25 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > The ratio seems excessive, but for those who do not pay taxes and > > > > > effectively do not contribute to the economy, it does seem reasonable > > > > > to temporarily withhold their voting privilege. That would be strong > > > > > incentive to get of their butts and get a job. > > > > > > On Jul 20, 8:15 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On another forum a certain conservative poster who goes by the nic > > > > > > of > > > > > > The Supreme Turtle pretty much openly posed that question. I quote > > > > > > his > > > > > > words" "if you pay 100k in taxes you should have ten times the votes > > > > > > of someone who pays 10K" End quote. > > > > > > > Well , I made my feelings about such a statement pretty clear but am > > > > > > most curious about what posters here think of that. Fire away folks, > > > > > > what do you think? > > > > > > Should the U.S. be ruled by the rich?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
