But, do we really, considering their track record, want the government
involved in more aspects of our lives and not less?



On Aug 7, 9:50 am, Chickie <[email protected]> wrote:
>  The problem with this is that is comes from a blog, not a true
> journalism site, so bloggers usually have their own agenda and does
> not reference the bill exactly.
>  And it is getting harder and harder to find news sites that don't
> have a bias, so it is even more important to read yourself and be
> informed.  Key words that writers are appealing to your emotions and
> not your intellect:  "The end is near".."We are all going to
> die" (which we are) "This is the end of life as we know it"  "This is
> scary"...all variations of trying to instill fear so it will surely
> close our minds to any other alternative way of thinking...
>
> Here is the link to actual 
> bill....http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bi...
>
> I don't have the time (or inclination) to punch holes in every one of
> these items but a short perusal will suffice... But come on folks,
> let's check it out before we rush to judgment.  Learn the
> facts...before you make a judgment and blindly forward these types of
> e-mails.  And even though it references an internet site and looks
> legit,---read it...  Let's not be lemmings and jump off the cliff
> because someone else said we should.   Look at my comments below ...
>
> Didn't mean to sound so preachy, but I am in healthcare...and trust
> me..it's broken and we need to do something as a start.  Let's make a
> decision to try to put something in place...we can always make another
> decision with another program if this isn't working.  It can't cost
> any more than what services we are paying for now and not getting...
> Let's take a calm, rational approach...rather than something based on
> fear of the unknown or by a political hacker of either side...
>
> Thanks
>
> • Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
> The audit to which this refers is regarding a study of a sample of the
> large insurers and small insurers  (to include the self insured)
> health care markets in order to determine the needs of the new plan
> based on demographics and pricing strategies per region.
>
> • Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
> This is discussing the cost sharing portions of the benefit plan...not
> the care that is rationed...
>
> • Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and
> benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals
> process)
> This is discussing who will determine which treatments and benefit
> will be included.  This is just like what ins. companies do with their
> board of directors...they have a board which is comprised of health
> professionals and business leaders to make decision.  No where on this
> page does it say that you have no appeals...On page 33 id does say
> that the public will have the opportunity to give their input.
>
> • Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health
> benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
> This section describes the functions of the role the commissioner will
> play.  As in any document like this, it is jargon to describe what the
> functions and duties are...like a job description...what he or she
> must oversee and makes them accountable...again, like regular
> insurance plans...
>
> • Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with
> free healthcare services.
> Again, this page is defining that no one can be excluded under current
> Title XXVII of the Public Health Insurance Act (already in law) that
> prohibits discrimination based on genetic information
> nondiscrimination and mental health
>
> =0 A• Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
> This section defines what information will be standards as far as
> financial and administrative transactions are concerns...akin to your
> current information as to how the information will be collected so
> that payments/deductibles can be determined....based on your
> eligibility.
>
>  • Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access
> to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer!!
>
> No...this will enable, for example, a hospital and the insurance
> company to electronically trade payment information so that the
> insurance company can see what you have to pay vs. what is
> charged...just like your BCBS statement now.  That statement lists
> what the hospital bills for and what you are responsible for under
> your plan...
>
> • Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community
> organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
> This section refers to how people who retire with this plan will get
> insurance. It looks like what retirees set up now or like COBRA where
> people can buy into after they retire.... (It does not mention unions
> or ACORN)
>
> • Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government
> rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
> OK folks, this is almost verbatim what is on this page....
>
> This page includes a purpose of the section ("...a.  Establishment.-
> There is established within the Health Choices Administration and
> under the direction of the Commissioner a Health Insurance Exchange in
> order to facilitate access of individuals and employers, through a
> transparent process, (EMPHASIS MINE) to a variety of choices of
> affordable, quality health insurance coverage, including a public
> health insurance option.
>
> b.-"Outline of the duties of the Commissioner" blah blah legalese blah
> blah then"(1) under section 204 establish standards for, accept bids
> from, and negotiate and enter into contracts with, QHBP offering
> entities for the offering of health benefits plans through the Health
> Insurance Exchange, with different levels of benefits required under
> section 203, and including with respect to oversight and enforcement;
> "
>
> I REST MY CASE...
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