It is quite amusing that someone could get a nobel prize for an
article on how to do things the wrong way.  It really diminishes the
value of the award.

On Aug 8, 7:58 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> Strange
> They discuss him sometimes, and also Christine Rohmer, at the economics blog
>
> www.marginalrevolution.com
>
> The work he received his Nobel for, in some technical aspects of trade
> policy, apparently has nothing to do with business cycles, monetary policy,
> stimulus, or anything he talks about on TV
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:52 AM, RichardForbes
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I would have to disagree.  He believes the nonsense he spews in his
> > NYT editorials.  In fact, as he shows as a commentator on This Week
> > with George, he is probably even dumber than he appears at the NYT
> > where he has an editor to tone down his stupidity.
>
> > On Aug 8, 7:40 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > He's probably not dumb so he is a lying whore
>
> > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, RichardForbes
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > Paul Krugman is not just physically short but also mentally short.
> > > > The man is narrow-minded and has an uncanny ability to be wrong on
> > > > virtually every topic.  There are few who get more attention for being
> > > > so damn dumb than does Krugman.
>
> > > > On Aug 8, 7:29 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > The Boys Who Cried
> > > > > “Racist”<
> > > >http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/08/07/the-boys-who-cried-racist/>
>
> > > > > Posted by David Boaz <http://www.cato.org/people/david-boaz>
>
> > > > > Some people on the left can’t see any excuse for opposition to
> > > > collectivism
> > > > > except racism. (Which is, of course, as Ayn Rand
> > > > > said<http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html>,
> > > > > “the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism.”) Today
> > it’s
> > > > Paul
> > > > > Krugman<
> > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=2&partner..
> > .>
> > > > > :
>
> > > > > But they’re probably reacting less to what Mr. Obama is doing, or
> > even to
> > > > > what they’ve heard about what he’s doing, than to who he is.
>
> > > > > That is, the driving force behind the town hall mobs is probably the
> > same
> > > > > cultural and racial anxiety that’s behind the “birther” movement,
> > which
> > > > > denies Mr. Obama’s citizenship.
>
> > > > > That is, Paul Krugman can’t understand why people would oppose
> > government
> > > > > control of health care — or skyrocketing deficits, or a federal
> > takeover
> > > > of
> > > > > education, energy, and finance along with health care — unless
> > they’re
> > > > > driven by racism. But he’s not the only one who sees racists under
> > every
> > > > > bed. Take *Washington Post* cultural writer Philip Kennicott
> > yesterday,
> > > > in
> > > > > an essay<
> > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/05/AR200..
> > .>
> > > > > titled
> > > > > “Obama as the Joker: Racial Fear’s Ugly Face”:
>
> > > > > [T]he poster is ultimately a racially charged image. By using the
> > “urban”
> > > > > makeup of the Heath Ledger Joker, instead of the urbane makeup of the
> > > > Jack
> > > > > Nicholson character, the poster connects Obama to something many of
> > his
> > > > > detractors fear but can’t openly discuss. He is black and he is
> > > > identified
> > > > > with the inner city, a source of political instability in the 1960s
> > and
> > > > > ’70s, and a lingering bogeyman in political consciousness despite
> > falling
> > > > > crime rates…
>
> > > > > Superimpose that idea, through the Joker’s makeup, onto Obama’s face,
> > and
> > > > > you have subtly coded, highly effective racial and political
> > argument.
> > > > > Forget socialism, this poster is another attempt to accomplish an
> > > > > association between Obama and the unpredictable, seeming danger of
> > urban
> > > > > life.
>
> > > > > He’s talking about a poster that depicts Obama as the Joker from last
> > > > year’s
> > > > > Batman movie over the word SOCIALISM. It’s not a very effective
> > poster;
> > > > what
> > > > > does the Joker have to do with socialism? But it’s ridiculous to see
> > > > racism
> > > > > in it.
>
> > > > > More serious thinkers also try to tar the entire limited-government
> > > > argument
> > > > > with the brush of racism. Take Cass Sunstein, the celebrated Harvard
> > law
> > > > > professor who has been appointed to a high position in the Obama
> > White
> > > > > House. In his 1999 book with Stephen Holmes, *The Cost of Rights: Why
> > > > > Liberty Depends on Taxes* (and you wonder why Obama chose him?), he
> > made
> > > > > such a sweeping argument, called out here by Tom G.
> > > > > Palmer<http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj19n2/cj19n2-10.pdf>
> > > > > :
>
> > > > > [I]mmediately after gallantly conceding that ‘‘Many critics of the
> > > > > regulatory-welfare state are in perfectly good faith’’ (p. 216) they
> > turn
> > > > > around to tar all critics of the welfare state with the charge of
> > racism:
> > > > > ‘‘But their claim that ‘positive rights’ are somehow un-American and
> > > > should
> > > > > be replaced by a policy of nonintervention is so implausible on its
> > face
> > > > > that we may well wonder why it persists. What explains the survival
> > of
> > > > such
> > > > > a grievously inadequate way of thinking? There are many possible
> > answers,
> > > > > but inherited biases — including racial prejudice, conscious and
> > > > unconscious
> > > > > — probably play a role. Indeed, the claim that the only real
> > liberties
> > > > are
> > > > > the rights of property and contract can sometimes verge on a form of
> > > > white
> > > > > separatism: prison-building should supplant Head Start. Withdrawal
> > into
> > > > > gated communities should replace a politics of inclusion’’ (p. 216).
>
> > > > > The classical liberal ideas of individualism, individual rights,
> > property
> > > > > rights, “negative liberties,” and limited government date back
> > hundreds,
> > > > > even thousands, of
> > > > > years<
> >http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/liberalism_essay/the_rise1.html
> > > > >.
> > > > > They find their
> > > > > roots<
> > > >http://www.amazon.com/Libertarianism-Primer-David-Boaz/dp/068484768X>
> > > > > in
> > > > > the Greek and Hebrew conceptions of the higher law, the Scholastic
> > > > thinkers,
> > > > > the Levellers’ ideas of self-ownership and natural rights, the
> > political
> > > > > theory of John Locke, the economic analysis of Adam Smith, and the
> > > > political
> > > > > institutions of the American Founding. To suggest that the case for
> > > > freedom
> > > > > and limited government — or the application of that theory to
> > > > contemporary
> > > > > proposals for the expansion of government — must be attributable to
> > > > racism
> > > > > is uncharitable, ahistorical, thoughtless, and indeed contemptible.
>
> > > > > It cannot be the case that every parody of a president who happens to
> > be
> > > > > black is racist. And it is not good for democracy to try to counter
> > every
> > > > > opposing argument with such a blood libel. The good news for
> > advocates of
> > > > > limited government is that our opponents are displaying a striking
> > lack
> > > > of
> > > > > confidence in the actual arguments for their proposals. If they
> > thought
> > > > they
> > > > > could win a debate on nationalizing health care, or running
> > > > trillion-dollar
> > > > > deficits, they wouldn’t need to reach for such smears.
> > > > > David Boaz <http://www.cato.org/people/david-boaz> • August 7, 2009
> > @
> > > > 3:30
> > > > > pm <http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/08/>
>
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM, RichardForbes <
> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I love reading books about the Revolution, the Founding Fathers and
> > > > > > our past Presidents.  I would be more than game for such a group
> > > > > > effort.  Feel free to include anything about the FBI or CIA as
> > well.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 6, 7:53 pm, LadybugsTX <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I am not trying to cause yet another senseless argument between
> > the
> > > > > > > sides and the inevitable spew of talking points.  I was just
> > curious.
> > > > > > > Does anyone actually read books about our history?  I would love
> > to
> > > > > > > start some sort of Oprahesque book club where we read a chosen
> > book
> > > > > > > and discuss it at length.  If history repeats itself, wouldn't it
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