George Romney ran for president in 1968 and he was born and lived in Mexico until he was five. Like Obama, he was born of American citizens and that was considered good enough. John McCain was born in Panama. Hello! Why did these two get a pass, but Obama is being hounded about this? If it didn't matter for those two, why would it matter for him? I still don't like his policies or him. But give it a rest on where he was born.
On Aug 7, 3:27 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > Note: The obvious question to ask about Obama's birth certificate is why > > on earth is he giving himself all this grief - and there is a gathering > > momentum to the birther movement - when all he has to do is make public > > the certificate? If his birth certificate shows him to be what he says > > he is, a natural born citizen, that would be the end of the matter. By > > refusing to do so he naturally fuels suspicion that there is something > > compromising in certificate. > > > But the birth certificate withholding is only one of the documents Obama > > is refusing to make public, viz: " WND has reported that among the > > documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten > > records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his > > Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School > > records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from > > the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files > > from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar > > Association records, any baptism records and his adoption records." > > > Bearing in mind that all mainstream presidential candidates these days > > place their medical history before the public - surely the most private > > of information - it is distinctly odd that Obama is refusing to release > > not only his birth certificate - for which there would be a good > > Constitutional reason, ie, to establish that he is a natural born > > citizen- but a vast array of other personal information. Of course, he > > is not the only president in recent times to withhold personal > > information, but his attempts to hide objective records of his life > > seem to be obsessive. Moreover, this is the man who promised > > transparency in his presidency. > > > Why is he behaving in this ostensibly counterproductive (for him) way? > > Here is a possible explanation. As analysis of his two books, especially > > Dreams from My Father, shows the man is a fantasist of some magnitude, > > shamelessly inventing dialogue, misrepresenting characters and > > frequently lying about his past*. Could it be that he has > > misrepresented his life so comprehensively in public that he dare not > > release the type of documentation mentioned above because like all > > people who weave a fantasy about themselves he can no longer remember > > exactly where his fantasy contradicts recorded reality? > > > More mundanely, it could be that he knows the records will contradict > > his public projection of himself, for example, show him to have been a > > mediocre student or an inadequate editor of the Harvard Law Review - > > amazingly Obama has never had an article under his own name published in > > a peer reviewed journal. > > > *See my articles The character of Barack Obama in his own words, viz: > > >http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/03/barack_obama_in_1.php > > > Barack Obama in His Own Words (Part I of III) > > > http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/04/barack_obama_in_2.php > > > Barack Obama in His Own Words (Part II of III) > > >http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/04/barack_obama_in_3.php > > > Barack Obama in His Own Words (Part III of III) > > > Andrew Sullivan: Release the birth certificate > > Influential columnist, blogger joins, then unjoins call for official > > 'transparency' > > Posted: August 02, 2009 > > 2:59 pm Eastern > > > © 2009 WorldNetDaily > > > WASHINGTON – One of the most influential bloggers, pundits and > > columnists in America, Andrew Sullivan, joined the rising chorus of > > voices across the political spectrum calling for Barack Obama to release > > his original, long-form birth certificate to put aside growing doubts > > about his eligibility for the presidency. > > > Sullivan writes that he believes official accounts , such as the recent > > statement by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Health > > Department, that maintain Obama was born there and is a "natural born > > citizen." Sullivan says, however, Americans should not be expected to > > accept on blind faith the word of public officials. > > > "It is not my job as a journalist or yours as a citizen to take public > > officials on trust." he says. "They are not to be trusted, whoever they > > are. It is our job to demand all the evidence we want or need. I know > > the electronic record is legit. I have no doubt that Obama has every > > constitutional right to be president. I think the Birthers are nuts. But > > there is no reason on earth that the original cannot be retrieved and > > shown." > > > He added that CNN President Jon Klein and his network were wrong to > > dispense bad information about original Hawaiian birth certificates > > having been destroyed and declaring the story dead. > > > "Obama promised total transparency," he wrote. "Where is it? Or will it > > arrive at the moment when he tackles the deficit and withdraws from > > Iraq?" > > > Only seven hours after posting his call for transparency, however, > > Sullivan wrote that he sustained a barrage of furious readers and > > recanted his position, saying he has faith in FactCheck.org's assertion > > that the Certificate of Live Birth is good enough. > > > "I should note that I was made aware today that FactCheck.org did see > > the original, and I'd encourage the Obama peeps to show it to other > > outlets," Sullivan writes. "After following all these confusing stories, > > and realizing that others have indeed seen and vetted the original, I > > don't see any further obligation on Obama's part. I'm still confused as > > to how the same original could be simultaneously in Chicago and Hawaii, > > but it seems to me that the president has done what is necessary." > > > Sullivan's backpedaled further, stating, "I'm not part of the Birther > > crowd. I'm trying to defuse them. I'm done now." > > > Sullivan, the former deputy editor and associate editor of The New > > Republic, has written for the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, > > the Daily Telegraph, the New York Times Magazine, Time Magazine, Sunday > > Times of London and Esquire. He was named editor of the year by Adweek > > magazine in 1996. > > > In the summer of 2000, Sullivan became one of the first mainstream > > journalists to experiment with blogging, and soon developed a large > > online readership with andrewsullivan.com's Daily Dish. In February > > 2007, he moved his blog to The Atlantic Online where he now writes > > daily. > > > Sullivan's original comments echoed those from an array of prominent > > commentators, including CNN's Lou Dobbs, talk radio's Lynn Samuels, > > WND's Chuck Norris and Rush Limbaugh, who have recently spoken out > > critically regarding Obama's refusal to release his birth certificate. > > > The "Certification of Live Birth" posted online and widely touted as > > "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in > > Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for > > children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – > > which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and > > attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was > > born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public > > or press scrutiny. > > > WND has produced hundreds of stories reporting on dozens of legal > > challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" and other > > issues. The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person > > except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the > > time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the > > Office of President." > > > Some of the challenges question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, > > as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American > > mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to > > confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time. > > > Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, > > a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time > > of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the > > framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as > > natural born. > > > Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated > > in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth > > certificate and other documentation. > > > Obama's birth certificate is not the only document at issue. WND has > > reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama > > includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his > > Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his > > Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review > > articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his > > passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois > > state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism > > records and his adoption records. > > > [KTLA]: > > > Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable President Earl Hutchinson is calling > > the > > depiction [of Obama as the Joker], politically mean spirited and > > dangerous. > > > Hutchinson is challenging the group or individual that put up the poster > > to > > have the courage and decency to publicly identify themselves. > > > "Depicting the president as demonic and a socialist goes beyond > > political > > spoofery," says Hutchinson, "it is mean-spirited and dangerous." > > > "We have issued a public challenge to the person or group that put up > > the > > poster to come forth and publicly tell why they have used this offensive > > depiction to ridicule President Obama." > > > *Funny!!;-)* > > >http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-obama-posters,0,940643.story* > > * > > > MP calls on YouTube to remove Real IRA propaganda videos > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/02/youtube-ira-facebook... > > er-terrorism > > 'Cyber-terrorism' films of dissident republicans could be banned from > > site > > > The Real IRA and Continuity IRA have been dealt a propaganda blow in > > cyberspace. YouTube has confirmed to the Observer this weekend that it > > is investigating the presence of films praising the dissident republican > > terror groups on its worldwide video-sharing network. > > > The company was moved to act after complaints from a Northern Ireland > > MP, who just last month persuaded Facebook to remove a pro-Real IRA > > group from the social networking site. > > > A number of propaganda videos for the two groups are thrown up when the > > words "Real IRA" or "Continuity IRA" are typed into the YouTube search > > engine. > > > In March the Continuity IRA was responsible for killing a Police Service > > of Northern Ireland (PSNI) officer. Forty eight hours earlier the Real > > IRA gunned down two British soldiers outside an army base in Antrim Town > > just before they were to leave for Afghanistan. > > > In the latest video to be posted on YouTube a masked man in a green > > combat jacket carrying an AK-47 rifle is seen at a riot in Armagh City > > on 13 July this year. Continuity IRA supporters have posted a video > > recorded at Easter of two masked men in combat fatigues addressing a > > crowd at a bar in Armagh. During their speech they threaten Northern > > Ireland's deputy first minister Martin McGuinness and brand him a > > "traitor". > > > A different video posted by a group called the "Free Derry Media", > > entitled "The War Goes On", is accompanied by a song denouncing the > > Provisional IRA. The lyrics include a verse telling the British to > > "stick your decommissioning up your ass". The imagery in the video > > includes masked gunmen firing a final salute over the coffin of Real IRA > > activist Joseph O'Connor who was shot dead by the Provisional IRA in > > west Belfast 10 years ago. > > > Other videos include recent news footage of rioting in north Belfast > > which is singled out for praise as "Republican Youth Resistance". > > > Lagan Valley MP Jeffrey Donaldson described the films as "a form of > > cyber-terrorism". The junior minister at Stormont said: "It's entirely > > wrong that terrorist organisations can engage in blatant propaganda and > > cyber-terrorism without any apparent sanction. Democratic governments > > need legislation to limit the capacity of these groups to spread their > > propaganda. At present, in effect, YouTube are broadcasting hardcore > > terrorism, unfiltered." > > > Donaldson pointed to the example of Facebook, which he petitioned to > > remove a pro-Real IRA network from last month, as an example of > > confronting terrorists on the web. His own Facebook group "Stop > > Terrorism" has 40,000 members, many of whom wrote to Facebook calling > > for the pro-Real IRA group to be taken down, he said. > > > YouTube said last night that it shared the MP's concerns about the use > > of its network to spread pro-terrorist messages. A spokesman said: > > "YouTube is a community site used by millions of people in very positive > > ways. Sadly, as with any form of communication, there is a tiny minority > > of people who try to break the rules. On YouTube we don't allow content > > like pornography or gratuitous violence, and last year we introduced a > > new policy for the UK banning videos in which people brandish weapons in > > a threatening manner. > > > "When people see content that they think is inappropriate they can flag > > it and our staff then review it and take the appropriate action, > > including removing videos and suspending accounts. > > > "As well as enforcing these general content rules, we will of course > > take action if we receive reports from the authorities of any other > > illegal activity on the site. > > > "We regularly talk about these issues with MPs and elected > > representatives in other countries, and we'd be very happy to sit down > > with Mr Donaldson to discuss what we're doing to keep YouTube clean of > > inappropriate material while ensuring that lawful expression is > > allowed." > > > The video-sharing network is understood to be replicating its decision > > in England and Wales to remove any material that involves people using > > or glorifying weapons like knifes and guns. The company moved to ban > > this material last year in response to the national outcry over knife > > crime. > > > YouTube's policy on the broadcasting of weapons in videos varies from > > country to country. There is no ban in the United States because weapons > > are legal. It is understood that the company is moving towards removing > > the Real and Continuity IRA films because both organisations are illegal > > under British and Irish law. > > > Daily telegraph > > > Airbrushing of photos should be banned, Liberal Democrats say Magazines > > should be banned from airbrushing photographs in adverts aimed at young > > people, the Liberal Democrats say. > > > By Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent > > Published: 7:00AM BST 03 Aug 2009 > > > Twiggy as she appeared in the Olay marketing campaign > > As part of a new policy on women's issues, the party suggest all images > > should be accompanied by a message indicating if they have been > > airbrushed - the term used when photographs are doctored to make the > > subject look thinner or free of blemishes. > > Jo Swinson, who oversaw the policy paper, singled out adverts featuring > > the model Twiggy for Olay face cream and Jessica Alba, the actress, both > > of which are said to have been heavily airbrushed before publication. > > > In Twiggy's case, age lines appeared to have been removed, while an > > original photograph of Miss Alba for an advert for Campari suggests that > > she was made to look far slimmer in the published version. Miss Swinson, > > the MP for East Dunbartonshire, said: "Today's unrealistic idea of what > > is beautiful means that young girls are under more pressure now than > > they were even five years ago. "Airbrushing mean that adverts contain > > completely unattainable images that no one can live up to in real life. > > "We need to help protect children from these pressures and we need to > > make a start by banning airbrushing in adverts aimed at them." She > > added: "The focus on women's appearance has got out of hand - no one > > really has perfect skin, perfect hair and a perfect figure, but women > > and young girls increasingly feel that nothing less than thin and > > perfect will do. "Liberal Democrats believe in the freedom of companies > > to advertise but we also believe in the freedom of young people to > > develop their self-esteem and to be as comfortable as possible with > > their bodies, without constantly feeling the need to measure up to a > > very narrow range of digitally manipulated shapes and sizes." The party > > will call on the Advertising Standards Authority to ban all altered or > > enhanced images in advertising aimed at the under-16s. Those which are > > for viewing by adults will have to indicate clearly the extent to which > > they have been airbrushed or digitally enhanced. The party also wants > > cosmetic surgery advertisements and information leaflets to carry > > success rates. Schools would be encouraged to offer exercise options > > more likely to appeal to teenage girls, such as dance, yoga and > > aerobics, and headteachers asked to ensure changing rooms are clean and > > well equipped, to stop high drop out rates from PE classes. And gyms > > should offer discounted membership to children, the Lib Dems say. > > > Sunday telegraph > > Weather records are a state secret > > The IPCC's computer models have proved just as wrong in predicting > > global temperatures as the Met Office has been in forecasting those mild > > winters and heatwave summers, says Christopher Booker. > > > By Christopher Booker > > Published: 4:17PM BST 01 Aug 2009 > > Comments 190 | Comment on this article > > > Sir John Houghton, former head of the Met Office, edited the first three > > IPCC reports between 1990 and 2001 > > Everyone has enjoyed the discomfiture of the Met Office, caught out over > > its April forecast that we were in for a "barbecue summer" – not least > > because this is the third year running that our weathermen have got > > their predictions for both summer and winter hopelessly wrong. In 2007 > > and 2008 they forecast that summers would be warmer and drier, and > > winters milder than average – just before temperatures plunged and the > > heavens opened, deluging us with abnormal rain or snow according to > > season. > > One cause of the blunders that have made the Met Office a laughing stock > > is less widely appreciated, however. It is that the multi-million pound > > computer it uses to assist its short-term forecasting for Britain is > > also one of the four main official sources of data used by the UN's > > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to predict global > > warming. In this respect the IPCC's computer models have proved just as > > wrong in predicting global temperatures as the Met Office has been in > > forecasting those mild winters and heatwave summers. > > > Back in 1990, Mrs Thatcher, temporarily under the spell of the prophets > > of runaway global warming, authorised lavish funding for the then-head > > of the Met Office, Sir John Houghton, to set up its Hadley Centre in > > Exeter, as a "world-class centre for research into climate change". It > > was linked to the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East > > Anglia, to create a record of global temperatures based on surface > > weather stations across the world, a data set known as HadCrut. Sir John > > himself played a key role at the top of the new IPCC as chairman of its > > scientific working group. > > Sir John was a fervent believer in the theory that the cause of global > > warming is man-made CO2, and the HadCrut computer models, run by his CRU > > ally Professor Phil Jones, were programmed accordingly. Sir John (and > > the Hadley Centre) continued to play a central part in the running of > > the IPCC, selecting many of the contributors to its reports that were > > the main driver of global warming alarm. He and Prof Jones were also > > prominent champions of the IPCC's notorious "hockey stick" graph, which > > rewrote climate history by suggesting that global temperatures had > > suddenly shot up in the late 20th century to easily their highest level > > in history. > > In recent years, however, the whole theory has come under increasing > > fire because, as CO2 levels continue to rise, temperatures have failed > > to follow suit as the IPCC's computer models predicted they should. Part > > of the reason why the Met Office has made such a mess of its forecasts > > for Britain is that they are based on the same models which failed to > > predict the declining trend in world temperatures since 2001. > > In recent months, in fact, a curious little drama has been unfolding > > over attempts by Steve McIntyre, a Canadian statistical expert, to get > > the Met Office and the CRU to divulge the computer data on which they > > base their temperature record. Mr McIntyre was not only the chief > > demolisher of the "hockey stick", showing how it was based on a > > seriously skewed computer model, but later exposed the "adjustments" > > which had skewed the other official record of surface temperatures, run > > by Dr James Hansen of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies. (The two > > other official sources of temperature data are based on satellite > > measurements.) > > When Mr McIntyre made Freedom of Information requests to see the data > > used to construct the HadCrut record (as he has chronicled on his > > ClimateAudit blog) he was given an almighty brush-off, the Met Office > > saying that this information was strictly confidential and that to > > release it would damage Britain's "international relations" with all the > > countries that supplied it. > > The idea that temperature records might be a state secret seems strange > > enough, but when the policies of governments across the world are based > > on that data it becomes odder still that no outsider should be allowed > > to see it. Weirdest of all, however, is the Met Office's claim that to > > release the data would "damage the trust that scientists have in those > > scientists who happen to be employed in the public sector". > > Doesn't the Met Office realise that trust in it has already been damaged > > enough by its batty predictions of "barbecue summers"? If it wants to > > restore that trust, it should first come clean about its data, and then > > reprogramme its computer to give us forecasts that are not skewed by its > > obsession with global warming – which is not happening. > > > ? Correction: Last week I quoted a report by Joanne Nova (Science and > > Public Policy Institute website) which shows, on official figures, that > > the world market in buying and selling “carbon credits’, the right > > to emit CO2, was worth $126 billion in 2008. In trying to squeeze down > > my copy, I quoted a claim that this would make “carbon the largest > > single commodity traded”. 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