so, you prefer to remain on the losing side, eh?

On Aug 16, 11:40 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Health-care insurance and the Catholic Church--the sooner these two
> abominations disappear the better
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> On Aug 16, 3:49 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > The president of a small Catholic college said Friday he would rather
> > close the school's doors than violate the church's teachings on
> > contraception should the college lose the latest battle involving
> > health-insurance laws and religious freedom.
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> > The federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has
> > determined that Belmont Abbey College violated discrimination laws
> > because the school's employee health insurance plan does not cover
> > contraception, according to a letter the EEOC sent to the school.
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> > "I hope it would never get this far," college President William K.
> > Thierfelder told The Washington Times, "but if it came down to it we
> > would close the college before we ever provided that."
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> > The factual conclusion reached by the EEOC could be a precursor to the
> > commission filing a federal discrimination lawsuit against the college.
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> > "By denying prescription contraceptive drugs, [the college] is
> > discriminating based on gender because only females take oral
> > prescription contraceptives," the EEOC wrote in a letter to the North
> > Carolina college. "By denying coverage, men are not affected, only women."
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> > Mr. Thierfelder disputed that conclusion in a letter posted on the
> > college's Web site: "Belmont Abbey College rejects the notion that by
> > following the moral teachings of the Catholic Church we are
> > discriminating against anyone.
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> > "We are simply and honestly exercising the freedom of religion that is
> > protected by the Constitution," he wrote.
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> > In the highest profile case involving contraception coverage and
> > Catholic institutions, California forced Catholic Charities to cover
> > contraception as part of its employee health-insurance plan. The
> > California Supreme Court ruled in 2004 that Catholic Charities was not a
> > religious organization under state law, and therefore was required to
> > provide contraception coverage under state law.
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> > The EEOC investigation into Belmont Abbey stems from changes the college
> > made to its employee health-insurance plan nearly two years ago. The
> > changes came after the school discovered its plan had inadvertently been
> > covering abortions, prescription contraception and elective
> > sterilization procedures.
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> > Mr. Thierfelder wrote at the time that "it is the clear, consistent,
> > incontrovertible, public, official and authoritative teaching of the
> > Roman Catholic Church that abortion, contraception and voluntary
> > sterilization are actions which are intrinsically wrong and should not
> > be undertaken because of their very nature."
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> > The college, which has about 1,500 students, no longer covers
> > contraceptive services as part of its employee health coverage.
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> > "As a Roman Catholic institution, Belmont Abbey College is not able to
> > and will not offer nor subsidize medical services that contradict the
> > clear teaching of the Catholic Church," Mr. Thierfelder wrote in a
> > letter explaining the changes.
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> > In response, eight current and former faculty members - six men and two
> > women, according to Mr. Thierfelder - filed a complaint with the EEOC
> > charging that the changes to the insurance benefits violated the 1964
> > Civil Rights Act by discriminating against them based on religion or sex.
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> > The letter the EEOC sent to the school said the plan change resulted in
> > discrimination based on sex, but found no discrimination based on
> > religion. The letter called only the contraception change
> > discriminatory; it did not mention the change in coverage for abortion
> > or elective sterilization.
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> > A spokesman at the EEOC in Washington declined to comment Friday, saying
> > that confidentiality laws prevent the agency even from confirming that a
> > complaint has been received or an investigation was undertaken.
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> > The letter said the next step is for the college and those who filed the
> > complaint to try to reach an agreement to settle their differences. That
> > seems unlikely, given Mr. Thierfelder's language.
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> > If no agreement is reached, the EEOC could then file a federal lawsuit
> > against the college.
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> > PanhandleTex
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> > There are few college presidents who adhere to principles. I am
> > encouraged by the stand of Belmont Abbey's president: Clea and
> > unambigious principles separate those who bend and bow to government's
> > dictates; and those that have a Higher Law. As a retired Presbyterian
> > pastor, a Protestant, I stand with Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI
> > and the moral teaching of the church against the dictates of the EEOC or
> > the U.S. Government. Longdrycreek Ranch Texas Panhandle
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> > Gorgegirl
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> > When will the Catholic Church finally come to it's senses, wake up and
> > realize that our world is becoming over populated due to their outdated
> > teachings? It is time women quit listening to old men in robes and make
> > their own reproductive decisions.
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> > marccrotty
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> > I applaud the college administration for standing with Church teachings
> > and the truth. There is a precedent for vowing to close down the school
> > if asked to compromise -- an entire county was sacrificed under Henry
> > VIII when the Papacy's hand when forced on divorce. The Judas teachers
> > on their staff are another concern. The threat of legal action developed
> > internally -- no one came looking for them. If the professors are
> > willing to seek government remedy to compromise Church moral teaching,
> > what are saying in the classroom?
> > Mark as offensive
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> > NoTaDim
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> > Gorgegirl, If you are truly concerned about overpopulation, find a
> > Muslim website and comment about their way of life and beliefs. I
> > believe having 15 + children per Muslim man would accomplish your goal.
> > The Catholic church has it's beliefs and it's time to stand up to
> > lawsuits and non believers who don't have the guts to face a real source
> > of over population and poverty. If you have the guts to do that I have
> > one word of advice, hang on to your head!
> > Mark as offensive
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> > coffic
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> > The employees have a choice--find another job or pay for a plan which
> > will cover contraceptives. Did they not know the stand of the Catholic
> > Church? If they didn't, they are too stupid to hold jobs, so they should
> > leave and make places for people with some degree of intelligence. I do
> > agree, though, that those complaining about the Church policy should use
> > birth control. The U.S. is turning into a country of self-serving morons.
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> > Higgy
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> > Georgegirl if the college was muslim, like you, there would be no
> > problem no matter what they did.
> > Mark as offensive
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> > mbalba2001
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> > The state must not force us Catholics to go against our religious
> > beliefs. I agree wholeheartedly with President Thierfelder. It violates
> > our religious freedom and conscience.
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> > mbalba2001
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> > gorgegirl Europe is losing population fast because widespread abortion
> > laws being filled by Muslims who do not believe in abortion as we
> > Catholics at home our loss is being compensated by inmigrants from
> > Catholic countries who believe children are a beautiful gift from God
> > Mark as offensive
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