My grandkids don't live in the UK ---- that's ok like CA, they don't have to speak English there either
Children who speak English as their first language are now a minority in inner-city London primary schools, official figures showed yesterday. Youngsters with a different mother tongue form a majority in primaries in 13 out of 33 London boroughs and in nearby Slough. In inner London, 54 per cent of primary pupils and 48.5 per cent in secondary institutions do not speak English as their first language. This amounts to an astonishing 159,340 children. Across the country, English is a foreign language to more than one in seven primary youngsters - almost half a million. The figures from the Department for Children, Schools and Families point to the major demographic changes over the past few decades. Around a fifth of pupils are from ethnic minorities - up from 11 per cent in 1997. There are concerns that school finances are under strain as growing numbers of youngsters require help with English. Heads' leaders have urged the Government to fund schools adequately and give fair treatment during inspections to those with large concentrations of non-English speakers. The figures show there are 14 council areas in which primary children with English as their second language are in the majority - 13 London boroughs and Slough. In Tower Hamlets almost four out of five youngsters do not have English as their mother tongue. In other areas, including Leicester, Luton and Bradford the proportion is approaching 50 per cent. For primaries overall, 15.2 per cent are non-native English speakers - up from 14.4 per cent last year. Enlarge The figures indicate that many recent migrants have settled in London. The lowest populations of youngsters with English as a second language are in the South West and North East. Sir Andrew Green, of the Migrationwatch think-tank, said: 'These figures confirm the huge impact immigration is having on our society. When Government funds are as tight as they are, this is bound to have a negative impact as children with English as an additional language will need extra tuition.' He added: 'In inner London it's hard to know who immigrant children are supposed to integrate with since they heavily outnumber local children.' The figures reflect a five-fold increase in immigration since Labour came to power. Net immigration has increased from 48,000 in 1997 to 237,000 in 2007. A DCSF spokesman stressed that the figures 'only indicate the language to which the child was initially exposed at home, irrespective of whether they speak English fluently later on. It is only a relatively few recent arrivals for whom communication problems are acute.' 'We are increasing funding in the Ethnic Minority Achievement Grant to £206million by 2010, to bring students weak in English up to speed. We also equip schools to offer effective English as an Additional Language teaching for new arrivals.' Yesterday's figures also showed that the recession has brought the first rise in four years in the number of children qualifying for free school meals. On Aug 16, 10:44 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > plain, > > My grandkids don't live in the UK either. Grown some cajones. > > On Aug 16, 10:29 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Wow, of all things on my list of "Things I don't Give A Fuck About" > > --- > > when your grandkids have to kick their ass out of the pool maybe > > you'll understand > > > On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Bruce, > > > > Wow, of all things on my list of "Things I don't Give A Fuck About" > > > what people wear in swimming pools in the fuckin' UK has to be close > > > to the top. > > > > On Aug 16, 6:39 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Swimmers are told to wear burkinis British swimming pools are imposing > > > > Muslim dress codes in a move described as divisive by Labour MPs. > > > > > By Patrick Sawer > > > > Published: 9:00PM BST 15 Aug 2009 > > > > [image: Muslim convert Carole who was banned from using a swimming > > > > pool in > > > > France for wearing a 'burkini'] UK councils running restricted swimming > > > > session for Muslims > > > > > Under the rules, swimmers – including non-Muslims – are barred from > > > > entering > > > > the pool in normal swimming attire. > > > > > Instead they are told that they must comply with the "modest" code of > > > > dress > > > > required by Islamic custom, with women covered from the neck to the > > > > ankles > > > > and men, who swim separately, covered from the navel to the knees. > > > > > Related Articles > > > > > - French ban Muslim woman from wearing > > > > 'burkini'<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/6017524/Frenc...> > > > > - Muslim NHS dentist 'tried to force patients to wear traditional > > > > Islamic > > > > > > > > dress'<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5718982/Muslim-NH...> > > > > > The phenomenon runs counter to developments in France, where last week a > > > > woman was evicted from a public pool for wearing a burkini – the > > > > headscarf, > > > > tunic and trouser outfit which allows Muslim women to preserve their > > > > modesty > > > > in the water. > > > > > The 35-year-old, named only as Carole, is threatening legal action > > > > after she > > > > was told by pool officials in Emerainville, east of Paris, that she > > > > could > > > > not wear the outfit on hygiene grounds. > > > > > But across the UK municipal pools are holding swimming sessions > > > > specifically > > > > aimed at Muslims, in some case imposing strict dress codes. > > > > > Croydon council in south London runs separate one-and-a half-hour > > > > swimming > > > > sessions for Muslim men and women every Saturday and Sunday at Thornton > > > > Heath Leisure Centre. > > > > > Swimmers were told last week on the centre's website that "during > > > > special > > > > Muslim sessions male costumes must cover the body from the navel to the > > > > knee > > > > and females must be covered from the neck to the ankles and wrists". > > > > > There are similar rules at Scunthorpe Leisure Centre, in North > > > > Lincolnshire, > > > > where "users must follow the required dress code for this session > > > > (T-shirts > > > > and shorts/leggings that cover below the knee)". > > > > > In Glasgow, a men-only swimming session is organised by a local mosque > > > > group > > > > at North Woodside Leisure Centre, at which swimmers must be covered from > > > > navel to knee. > > > > > At a women-only class organised by a Muslim teacher at Blackbird Leys > > > > Swimming Pool, Oxford, to encourage Muslim women to learn to swim, most > > > > participants wear "modest" outfits although normal costumes are > > > > permitted. > > > > > The dress codes have provoked an angry reaction among critics who say > > > > they > > > > encourage division and resentment between Muslims and non-Muslims, > > > > putting > > > > strain on social cohesion. > > > > > Ian Cawsey, the Labour MP for the North Lincolnshire constituency of > > > > Brigg > > > > and Goole, said: "Of course swimming pools have basic codes of dress > > > > but it > > > > should not go beyond that. > > > > > "I don't think that in a local authority pool I should have to wear a > > > > particular type of clothes for the benefit of someone else. That's not > > > > integration or cohesion." > > > > > Labour MP Anne Cryer, whose Keighley, West Yorkshire constituency has a > > > > large number of Muslims, said: "Unfortunately this kind of thing has a > > > > negative impact on community relations. > > > > > "It's seen as yet another demand for special treatment. I can't see why > > > > special clothing is needed for what is a single-sex session." > > > > > Muslim swimming sessions are also held at a number of state schools > > > > around > > > > the country. At Loxford School in Ilford, east London, a local Muslim > > > > group > > > > organises weekly sessions for Muslim men, with the warning that "it is > > > > compulsory for the body to be covered between the navel and the knees. > > > > > "Anyone not adhering to the dress code or rules within the pool will > > > > not be > > > > allowed to swim". > > > > > The practice of holding special Muslim swimming sessions has led to > > > > non-Muslims being turned away. > > > > > David Toube, 39 and his five year old son Harry were last year refused > > > > entry > > > > to Clissold Leisure Centre, in Hackney, east London, after being told > > > > the > > > > Sunday morning swimming session was for Muslim men only. > > > > > Council officials later said staff had made a mistake and both Mr > > > > Toube, a > > > > corporate lawyer, and his son should have been admitted. > > > > > After discovering the rules at Thornton Heath one Croydon resident, > > > > 34-year-old Alex Craig, said: "I think it is preposterous that a council > > > > should be encouraging this type of segregation over municipal > > > > facilities. > > > > > "Surely if Muslims want to swim then they should just turn up with their > > > > modest swimwear at the same time as everyone else." > > > > > Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, last night > > > > condemned the practice. He said: "This kind of thing is extremely > > > > divisive. > > > > > "Non-Muslims see these extremist demands as an example of Muslims > > > > wanting > > > > things to fit into their lifestyle, when there aren't similar things > > > > organised for Hindus, Buddhists or Jews. > > > > > "It also puts moderate Muslims in an awkward position as it suggests, > > > > wrongly, that they are not devout enough, simply because they choose > > > > not to > > > > cover themselves in a shroud in a pool." > > > > > A press officer at Croydon council, which introduced Muslim-only > > > > swimming in > > > > 2006, claimed that the wording on the website was a mistake and the > > > > dress > > > > code should be regarded as a suggestion rather than a requirement. > > > > > The website was late changed to remove the reference to the dress code. > > > > > However, an official at the leisure centre said the dress code remained > > > > compulsory. > > > > > Earlier, defending the segregation policy, a Croydon council spokesman > > > > said: > > > > "We appreciate that certain religious groups, such as Muslims, have > > > > strict > > > > rules on segregation for activities including sports, so in response to > > > > requests from the local community, we have been running these sessions > > > > at > > > > Thornton Heath Leisure Centre." > > > > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6034706/Swimmers-... > > > > > __._,_.___ > > > > Messages in this topic > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/message/33053;_ylc=X3oDM...>( > > > > 1) Reply (via web post) > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJybDFxY2...>| > > > > Start > > > > a new topic > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZjNyZn...> > > > > Messages<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZT...>| > > > > Files<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnOWQ2Y...>| > > > > Photos<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNnEy...>| > > > > Links<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJnMnNld...>| > > > > Database<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcm...>| > > > > Polls<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/polls;_ylc=X3oDMTJnazhlb...> > > > > "Dissension is the progenitor of democracy!" > > > > MARKETPLACE > > > > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their > > > > families, > > > > for the world and for each > > > > other<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14kfrpoll/M=493064.12016295.13271503.1083...> > > > > [image: Yahoo! > > > > Groups]<http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMTc1anBxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycEl...> > > > > Change settings via the > > > > Web<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnN3M3cX...>(Yahoo! > > > > ID required) > > > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily > > > > Digest<[email protected]?subject=email+delivery:+Digest>| > > > > Switch > > > > format to > > > > Traditional<[email protected]?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional> > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand;_ylc=X3oDMTJldmhyZHFhBF9...>| > > > > Yahoo! > > > > Groups Terms of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> | Unsubscribe > > > > <[email protected]?subject=> > > > > Recent Activity > > > > > - 1 > > > > New > > > > Members<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnY2d...> > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/4UnitedWeStand;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcDUzaHZ1BF9...> > > > > Group Charity > > > > > Citizen > > > > Schools<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14htt3hl0/M=737447.13475021.13554044.8674...> > > > > ... > > > > > read more » > > > > > burqini460_1461189c.jpg > > > > 35KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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