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Social Security Payments to Shrink for First Time in a Generation

The trustees who oversee Social Security are projecting there won't be a
cost of living adjustment (COLA) for the next two years.

AP

Sunday, August 23, 2009

WASHINGTON -- Millions of older people face shrinking Social Security
checks next year, the first time in a generation that payments would not
rise.

The trustees who oversee Social Security are projecting there won't be a
cost of living adjustment (COLA) for the next two years. That hasn't
happened since automatic increases were adopted in 1975.

By law, Social Security benefits cannot go down. Nevertheless, monthly
payments would drop for millions of people in the Medicare prescription
drug program because the premiums, which often are deducted from Social
Security payments, are scheduled to go up slightly.

"I will promise you, they count on that COLA," said Barbara Kennelly, a
former Democratic congresswoman from Connecticut who now heads the
National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. "To some
people, it might not be a big deal. But to seniors, especially with
their health care costs, it is a big deal."

Cost of living adjustments are pegged to inflation, which has been
negative this year, largely because energy prices are below 2008 levels.

Advocates say older people still face higher prices because they spend a
disproportionate amount of their income on health care, where costs rise
faster than inflation. Many also have suffered from declining home
values and shrinking stock portfolios just as they are relying on those
assets for income.

"For many elderly, they don't feel that inflation is low because their
expenses are still going up," said David Certner, legislative policy
director for AARP. "Anyone who has savings and investments has seen some
serious losses."

About 50 million retired and disabled Americans receive Social Security
benefits. The average monthly benefit for retirees is $1,153 this year.
All beneficiaries received a 5.8 percent increase in January, the
largest since 1982.

More than 32 million people are in the Medicare prescription drug
program. Average monthly premiums are set to go from $28 this year to
$30 next year, though they vary by plan. About 6 million people in the
program have premiums deducted from their monthly Social Security
payments, according to the Social Security Administration.

Millions of people with Medicare Part B coverage for doctors' visits
also have their premiums deducted from Social Security payments. Part B
premiums are expected to rise as well. But under the law, the increase
cannot be larger than the increase in Social Security benefits for most
recipients.

There is no such hold-harmless provision for drug premiums.

Kennelly's group wants Congress to increase Social Security benefits
next year, even though the formula doesn't call for it. She would like
to see either a 1 percent increase in monthly payments or a one-time
payment of $150.

The cost of a one-time payment, a little less than $8 billion, could be
covered by increasing the amount of income subjected to Social Security
taxes, Kennelly said. Workers only pay Social Security taxes on the
first $106,800 of income, a limit that rises each year with the average
national wage.

But the limit only increases if monthly benefits increase.

Critics argue that Social Security recipients shouldn't get an increase
when inflation is negative.

They note that recipients got a big increase in January -- after energy
prices had started to fall. They also note that Social Security
recipients received one-time $250 payments in the spring as part of the
government's economic stimulus package.

"Seniors may perceive that they are being hurt because there is no COLA,
but they are in fact not getting hurt," said Andrew G. Biggs, a resident
scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank.
"Congress has to be able to tell people they are not getting everything
they want."

Social Security is also facing long-term financial problems. The
retirement program is projected to start paying out more money than it
receives in 2016. Without changes, the retirement fund will be depleted
in 2037, according to the Social Security trustees' annual report this
year.

President Barack Obama has said he would like tackle Social Security
next year, after Congress finishes work on health care, climate change
and new financial regulations.

Lawmakers are preoccupied by health care, making it difficult to address
other tough issues. Advocates for older people hope their efforts will
get a boost in October, when the Social Security Administration
officially announces that there will not be an increase in benefits next
year.
"I think a lot of seniors do not know what's coming down the pike, and I
believe that when they hear that, they're going to be upset," said Sen.
Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont who is working on a proposal
for one-time payments for Social Security recipients.

"It is my view that seniors are going to need help this year, and it
would not be acceptable for Congress to simply turn its back," he said.

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