but the currency is still dropping unemployment is not lagging-- it is going up, the trend is against you
stocks fall just as many days as they go up you are an idiot searching for a sign that your Massa is good for you in the chicken entrails he tosses you in your gruel you have no understanding of economic processes On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]>wrote: > > The Jerry Springer Fringe was pointing to the falling Stock > Market earlier this year as proof the Obama Stimulus wasn't > working. That ended after the market went on a 6 month rally that > was one of the best reversals in recent decades. > > The Stock market is a forward indicator usually a 6 to 9 months > predictor. > > Suddenly the BS about this ended as it was now proving the > stimulus WAS WORKING. > > Now the Pavlovian dogs are howling about Employment even > though President Obama has stemmed the bloody hemorrhaging > by 72%. This is substatial progress in just 8 months. > > Employment is a TRAILING indicator usually 6 to 9 months BEHIND > the recovery. > > What will it be next after the Employment numbers turn around? > > On Sep 9, 8:29 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > No new job > > creations here - but our government sure has no problem > > giving money to foreign countries, to help them create jobs. > > > > http://www.examiner.com:80/examiner/x-21037-Illinois-Statehouse-Exami.. > .<http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-21037-Illinois-Statehouse-Examiner.. > .> > > > > Real unemployment rate tops 16.8% inside numbers point to jobless > economic > > recovery > > > > During the past months an increasing number of economists have warned of > > the growing likelihood of an US economic recovery that fails to produce > job > > growth. A bevy of economic reports in the past weeks have sent mixed > > signals as to economic strength, but overall most economists believe that > > the US economy has turned a corner. Yesterdays unemployment report, > > however, adds to the concern that the US is looking forward to a > sustained > > period of high unemployment and lack of job creation. > > The Department of Labor reported a rise in the adjusted non-farm > unemployment > > rate to a 30 year high of 9.7% after the economy shed another 216,000. > > However, beyond the adjusted payroll number lies a host of employment > > numbers that continue to raise concern. > > The adjusted payroll numbers do not include 2 groups of unemployed > workers > > that the DOL refers to as temporary part-time workers and marginally > > attached workers. The DOL reported that 9.1 million Americans are > currently > > working part-time due to economic conditions. This group is comprised of > > workers who have had their hours cut from full-time status or who have > been > > able to find full-time employment. In addition the DOL reported that the > > number of marginally attached workers grew to 2.3 million. Such > marginally > > attached workers include individuals who are unemployed but have not > sought > > work over the 4 weeks prior to the survey and includes some 758,000 > > "discouraged' > > workers that have simply given up. The addition of such excluded groups > > caused the real unemployment rate to increase to 16.8%. > > Inside the Numbers > > A major cause of concern for within the economy is that a pattern has > > developed in which the real unemployment rate continues to rise at a > faster > > pace than the adjusted unemployment rate. While the adjusted rate rose > .3% > > last month, the real unemployment rate jumped .5%. As a result, the > numbers > > demonstrate that the unemployed are remaining unemployed as the number of > > marginally attached unemployed jumped to a record high which will > continue > > to place increased strains upon social services. > > The DOL also adjusted their June and July unemployment figures upward as > is > > typical with late responses and the rush to get the report published. In > > June the economy shed an additional 20,000 jobs and in July we lost > 33,000 > > more jobs than initially reported. > > Manufacturing and Construction sectors both shed more jobs than were > > expected in the month of August raising concerns over the how quickly > those > > sectors are recovering and conflicting with economic data reflecting > growth > > with those industries. > > The construction industry shed more than 65,000 jobs in July continuing a > > very consistent pattern of job less over the summer months. August > > typically represents the height of construction job creation and was not > > expected to continue to shed jobs in light of promised growth through the > > Economic Recovery Act. Furthermore, the manufacturing sector reversed > > course by reporting 63,000 job cuts in August compared to a low-level > 43,000 > > losses in the previous month. Recent economic reports have suggested an > > increase in worker productivity and increase in the ISM manufacturing > index > > suggesting a turnaround in the sector. However, job data reflects that > > worker productivity is rising because fewer workers are taking on greater > > responsibility and the manufacturing sector as a whole may have > > experienced growth but is still not hiring new workers. > > The only private industry sector to add jobs in August was the Health > Care > > industry which has added 544,000 jobs since last December. However, the > health > > Care sector only added 28,000 jobs in August reflecting industry > > hiring which has continued to decline since April. In addition, > > within the health > > care sector, hiring has leveled off within hospital industry which was > the > > primary driver of industry job creation. > > In August the DOL reported further losses within Government employment > > reflecting the stimulus packages inability to increase federal employment > > levels enough to offset continued layoffs within State & Local > governments. > > The jobless rate is not increasing as rapidly as it was during the first > > half of the year. However, employers cut deep and hard during the first > > quarter of the year and economists had expected employment figures to > > improve through the fall. Historically, the periods July to August and > > November to December have provided the strongest levels of employment in > the > > US. July and August numbers are typically strong due the height > > of US construction levels and increased manufacturing in preparation of > an > > upcoming holiday season (yes, most orders are placed and stores beginning > > receiving inventory during this period). As a result of continued losses > > within manufacturing and construction and the onset of fall, we are > likely > > to see the adjusted unemployment rate remain somewhat stable through the > > end of the year perhaps reaching 10%. However, if consumer spending does > > not recover prior the holiday season, then we once again likely to see a > > drastic increase in January and February unemployment data and an > adjusted > > unemployment rate of 10.5%-11.0% by spring. In addition, the real > > unemployment rate is likely to approach 18% during the same period. > > According to recent polling, more than 60% of Americans do not believe > that > > the stimulus package is creating jobs. Unemployment data corroborates > that > > concern as the stimulus package has only provided a slow trickle of > funds > > to select industries. The stimulus package has provided a life line to > the > > economy, any time the government spends money at the rate it is, it will > > positively affect the economy. However, that life line is not enough to > > save jobs as the stimulus has failed to provide relief to consumers and > > increase consumer spending. Retailers reported less than expected "back > to > > school" sales in August and are now growing more concern that increased > > consumer spending may not occur before the onset of the holiday shopping > > season. 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