Both of you have swallowed the bait, hook, line and sinker.................
>From Washington's Farewell Address 1796 snip> I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally. This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy. The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty. Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it. It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another. There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume. >end snip Peace, Doc On Oct 26, 8:35 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Zeb, > > No risk whatsoever. It's a dead-on, 100% certainty he will be attacked > by conservatives such as yourself no matter what he does, or does not > do. Politics in this country is all about perceptions and not > realities. > > On Oct 26, 8:37 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Great! The President declares a national emergency and he's "playing." > > God knows the risk of Obama being criticized is more important than > > being honest about a plague. > > > On Oct 26, 7:25 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Daniel, > > > > The President is just playing CYA. Better he be criticized for being > > > too cautious and concerned than NOT being concerned enough about > > > public health issues. He knows full well that no matter what he does, > > > or does not do, certain people are going to be critical. That simple. > > > > On Oct 26, 3:52 pm, Daniel Seigler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Makes one wonder --just what's going on??! > > > > > NaturalNews) President Obama's declaration of a national pandemic > > > > emergency is "no cause for alarm," reported the mainstream media > > > > throughout the weekend. The declaration is nothing more than a > > > > "precaution," they say. "It's really more a continuation of our > > > > preparedness steps," said Anne Schuchat, director of the Centers for > > > > Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Immunization and > > > > Respiratory Diseases, in a USA Today story. > > > > > In other words, there's not really any emergency at all. So why declare > > > > a national emergency in the first place? The media reports this was > > > > done to allow hospitals to bypass federal regulations concerning the > > > > setting up of large-scale triage sites -- emergency medical camps > > > > quickly constructed to deal with large numbers of sick people. > > > > > But at the same time, H1N1 isn't causing large-scale sickness. As USA > > > > Today reported, an expert on infectious disease, P.J. Brennan (the > > > > chief medical officer for the Penn Health System at the University of > > > > Pennsylvania in Philadelphia) said, "The public ought to take some > > > > solace, some relief in this. It's not a suggestion that things have > > > > deteriorated in any way. In no way is the virus more severe or more > > > > difficult to manage." > > > > > So let me get this straight. The H1N1 virus remains mild. The CDC > > > > reports that swine flu infections already peaked out in mid-October. > > > > There have been no new developments in swine flu that would be cause > > > > for alarm and no reason to suspect huge numbers of sick people flooding > > > > into the hospitals. And yet, for some reason, the Obama administration > > > > has declared a national pandemic emergency specifically for the purpose > > > > of speeding the ability of hospitals to process large masses of sick > > > > people through emergency medical triage tents? > > > > > What are these people not telling us? > > > > > Something doesn't add up here. Why would the U.S. Government need to > > > > declare a national emergency to enable hospitals to handle a flood of > > > > sick people when there is no flood of sick people (and the pandemic > > > > seems to be fizzling out)? > > > > > This is more like the kind of preparation you might expect in advance > > > > of a biological terrorism attack, not for a flu that appears no more > > > > dangerous than the seasonal sniffles. > > > > > The National Emergencies Act and FEMAMeanwhile, the media ignores the > > > > rest of the story about what dangerous powers a declaration of a > > > > national emergency puts into play. As reported here on NaturalNews, > > > > this declaration effectively ends many civil liberties in America and, > > > > at least on paper, puts the U.S. Government in the position of having > > > > the legal authority to force vaccinations on the entire population at > > > > gunpoint (if they wanted to). > > > > > The National Emergencies Act passed in 1976 has some peculiar realities > > > > attached to it. In particular, as Wikipedia reports: > > > > > A federal emergency declaration allows the United States Federal > > > > Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to exercise its power to deal with > > > > emergency situations ... Typically, a state of emergency empowers the > > > > executive to name coordinating officials to deal with the emergency and > > > > to override normal administrative processes regarding the passage of > > > > administrative rules. > > > > > Got that yet? By declaring a national emergency, Obama invokes a set of > > > > laws that not only override important sections of the U.S. > > > > Constitution, but that also activate FEMA to take charge of > > > > "responding" to the emergency. > > > > > Now we know why they need all those emergency medical tent camps near > > > > the hospitals. FEMA's in charge! And if FEMA handles the swine flu > > > > pandemic in the same way the agency handled the Hurricane Katrina > > > > disaster, we may indeed need all those emergency triage tents after all. > > > > > Those of you who have been following the ongoing march to destroy the > > > > freedoms of the American People already know about FEMA camps. These > > > > aren't Boy Scout field trip camps; they're detention centers designed > > > > to hold large numbers of people for "emergency" purposes. Many theories > > > > abound on what these FEMA camps might be used for (www.campFEMA.com) > > > > (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....). > > > > > They could conceivably be used to quarantine people who are infected > > > > with a dangerous pandemic virus. On the other hand, they might also be > > > > used to isolated and detain people who refuse to be vaccinated against > > > > any declared pandemic. Under the National Emergencies Act and related > > > > U.S. Law, FEMA would have two years of near-total control over the > > > > civilian population, during which people could be subjected to forced > > > > vaccinations, mandatory searches of their homes, gunpoint detainment > > > > and "involuntary transportation" to a FEMA detainment facility, and so > > > > on. > > > > > I'm not saying they're going to do all this, but they could if they > > > > wanted to! > > > > > And that's not freedom. Real freedom means you have the guaranteed > > > > right to be safe from being detained, or arrested without cause, or > > > > injected with a government-mandated chemical. Under a declaration of a > > > > national emergency, your "freedom" is at the whim of those who maintain > > > > police state powers over you. You're only "free" if they decide to > > > > refrain from exercising the power they have over you. It's the same > > > > kind of freedom you might get as a peasant in some Medieval kingdom > > > > where the king says, "You're free to go." > > > > > Now, some of these freedom-restricting actions might conceivably be > > > > justifiable if a truly dangerous pandemic virus were sweeping through > > > > the population killing millions, causing huge disruptions in the > > > > national infrastructure and threatening the nation with a partial or > > > > total shutdown of essential services. But that is not happening here. > > > > H1N1 is a mild virus that rates astonishingly low on the severity > > > > scale. If H1N1 were a hurricane, it would be little more than a > > > > "tropical depression." It is not a category five hurricane, nor a phase > > > > six pandemic. Virtually everyone who is exposed to H1N1 generates their > > > > own antibodies and cures themselves naturally. According to hospital > > > > reports, those who have died from the H1N1 virus are almost exclusively > > > > people who were already suffering from preexisting conditions that > > > > compromised their health such as asthma or extreme obesity. > > > > > By any measure, H1N1 as currently configured appears to present no > > > > extraordinary threat to the health of the population. So once again, we > > > > must ask: Why declare a national emergency and initiate a FEMA response > > > > to something that's not really an emergency? > > > > > Why I'm concernedFor the first time in this whole pandemic situation, > > > > I'm concerned. Not due to the virus itself, because that's a mild virus > > > > that presents no real threat to the population at large. I'm concerned > > > > about what we don't know might be going on behind the scenes here. > > > > > These preparations for large-scale medical triage tents and the > > > > emergency activation of FEMA have me worried that the American people > > > > aren't being told the whole story. Perhaps a terrorist organization is > > > > planning on releasing a wildly dangerous mutation of H1N1 in some major > > > > U.S. city. Or perhaps some vaccine maker is, in fact, that terrorist > > > > organization. (The best way to sell more vaccines would be to release a > > > > mutated form of H1N1 into the population and scare up some more > > > > sales...) > > > > > Or maybe, as some creative thinkers have suggested, the vaccine itself > > > > IS a bioweapon, and the U.S. government is preparation for large-scale > > > > fatalities it expects to see soon. > > > > > Or maybe these are just fleeting, dark visions from crazy people, and > > > > the U.S. government is a benevolent organization with all our best > > > > interests in mind, and they're jumping through these bureaucratic hoops > > > > to make sure there are plenty of hospital beds to go 'round just in > > > > case more people get really sick. > > > > > But even that explanation doesn't hold water. A "national emergency > > > > declaration" isn't necessary to waive hospital tent rules. Obama could > > > > have easily accomplished the same thing with an Executive Order, > > > > without having to invoke the National Emergencies Act or put FEMA in > > > > charge at all. > > > > > He chose the emergency declaration for a specific reason. I guess we'll > > > > all have to wait and see what that real reason turns out to be. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn > > > > more.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pc-scout/default.aspx?CBID=wl&ocid=P... > > > > > imstp_animation_monkey_en_020908.gif > > > > 55KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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