yes - so you didn't have to ask On Nov 1, 3:58 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > plain, > > "The report" made by whom and when? Do you mean references made in a > speech by the President in June 2009? If not, exactly what "report" > are you talking about? > > On Nov 1, 2:29 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Who cares? > > --- > > After the attacks on September 11, 2001, one of the responses from the > > government was to locate and cut the financial resources of terrorist > > organizations. Armed with the PATRIOT ACT and Executive Order 13224, > > President Bush had the tools to shut down any organization the > > government designated as a terrorist group or one of their > > supporters. In December three prominent U.S. Muslim charities were > > raided by government officials and had their assets seized and funds > > frozen. > > > President Obama addressed the importance for American Muslims to be > > able to fulfill their religious donation, or zakat in a June 2009 > > speech from Cairo, Egypt. According to the report, "the ACLU > > documented a pervasive fear among Muslim charitable donors that they > > may be arrested, retroactively prosecuted for donations made in good > > faith to legal Muslim charities, targeted for law enforcement > > interviews for exercising their religious obligation to pay zakat, > > subpoenaed to testify in a criminal case, subjected to surveillance, > > deported or denied citizenship or a green card, or otherwise > > implicated because of charitable donations made in fulfillment of > > their religious obligation to give zakat." > > > The report also finds that the measures taken against American Muslim > > charities are "undermin[ing]counterterrorism efforts…alienating Muslim > > Americans; are damaging America’s reputation and diplomatic efforts in > > Muslim countries by giving the appearance of a war on Islam; are > > fomenting fear that drives Muslim Americans’ charitable donations > > underground; and are creating a chilling effect on overseas > > humanitarian relief efforts." > > > The report provides numerous recommendations for the President, > > Department of Treasury, Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of > > Investigation, Department of State, and Congress. Implementation of > > these measures will protect the rights of American Muslims and promote > > national security interests. Several of the recommendations include: > > Repeal Executive Order 13224 > > Set time limits on frozen funds. Create a process for release of > > frozen charitable funds to beneficiaries > > Withdraw the Office of Foreign Assets Control Anti-Terrorist Financing > > Guidelines/Voluntary Best Practices for U.S.-based Charities > > Permit defendants charged with material support to challenge the > > underlying designation in their criminal cases > > Issuing transparent standards governing OFAC designations > > Restricting the use of secret evidence > > > On Oct 31, 3:41 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Travis, > > > > Who cares? As you correctly point out, they are nut-jobs and fanatics. > > > Fuck what they want. > > > > On Oct 31, 1:20 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > [[ We may as well have the atttached.]] > > > > >http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/136843/Buckingham-Mosque-what-fan... > > > > > *HOME* <http://www.express.co.uk/> > *NEWS / > > > > SHOWBIZ*<http://www.express.co.uk/news>> > > > > *UK NEWS* <http://www.express.co.uk/uknews> > *Buckingham Mosque ...what > > > > fanatics want to call the Palace* > > > > > *UK NEWS* > > > > > *BUCKINGHAM MOSQUE ...WHAT FANATICS WANT TO CALL THE PALACE* > > > > > *Extremists website show how Palace would look with a dome* > > > > > Thursday October 29,2009 > > > > > *By David Pilditch* > > > > > *A FANATICAL Muslim group campaigning to impose sharia law on Britain > > > > wants > > > > to turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque, it was revealed last night.* > > > > > Days before a potentially incendiary rally in central London, the > > > > hardline > > > > Islam4UK group claims to have uncovered historical evidence which > > > > challenges > > > > the right of the Queen to live at the royal property. > > > > > Notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary is calling for the palace to be > > > > renamed Buckingham Masjid, the Arabic word for mosque. > > > > > The Mall, which approaches the palace, would become Masjid Road. > > > > > Choudary, the right-hand man of exiled cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri > > > > Mohammed, > > > > spoke out as he urged Muslims across Britain to join Saturdays rally to > > > > demand a complete overhaul of the British legal system and the > > > > introduction > > > > of sharia courts. > > > > > The protest is due to begin at 1pm outside the Houses of Parliament and > > > > end > > > > at Trafalgar Square, less than a mile from Buckingham Palace, raising > > > > concerns over security. > > > > > Last night angry politicians and fellow Muslims condemned Choudarys > > > > comments. > > > > > Tory MP Philip Davies compared Choudary to the leader of the BNP, > > > > saying: > > > > This mans a complete idiot. Hes the Muslim equivalent to Nick Griffin. > > > > Im > > > > all for free speech and people having the right to have their say but, > > > > equally, there are all these ridiculous laws the Government has > > > > introduced > > > > about inciting racial hatred. Quite clearly, thats what he is doing. > > > > > If these laws are in place, they have to work both ways they cant apply > > > > to > > > > just one group of people. > > > > > In a rambling diatribe, Choudary wrote on the Islam4UK website: There > > > > is a > > > > spark that has ignited and its flame has become unstoppable. > > > > > *SEARCH UK NEWS for:* > > > > > In recent years the world has witnessed an Islamic resurgence which > > > > continues to grow in strength. > > > > > We find ourselves in the year 2009, waiting for Rome to fall, waiting > > > > for > > > > the White House to fall and indeed waiting for Buckingham Palace to > > > > fall. > > > > > Choudary said that under sharia law the Queens official residence in > > > > London > > > > would have a dome fitted and a tannoy system to call followers to > > > > prayer. > > > > > The Palace would be used as a judiciary court for handing down sharia > > > > punishments and a detention place for prisoners of war. > > > > > In addition, the building would become the headquarters of the Islamic > > > > States supreme leadership and the Department of Information and Culture. > > > > > Choudary also called for the Crown Jewels to be melted down into more > > > > appealing jewellery, free from idolatrous engravings or symbols such as > > > > crosses or human beings. > > > > > Islam4UKs website shows mock-up images of the Palace as a mosque and the > > > > Crown Jewels being melted. > > > > > Choudary added: At present, Buckingham Palace is nothing more than a > > > > hollow > > > > building exploited by the rich and withheld from any real use. > > > > > Under the sharia this would never happen, rather the British community > > > > would > > > > see it converted into a flourishing mosque which would be of a great > > > > benefit, not only for those residing in London but also the country as a > > > > whole. > > > > > The Islam4UK movement is made up of leading members of the banned > > > > radical > > > > al-Muhajiroun group which was once led by Choudary. Around 15 per cent > > > > of > > > > people convicted in the UK of terrorism-related offences in the last > > > > decade > > > > were either members of the group or had links to it. > > > > > The Centre for Social Cohesion last night warned of the dangers of > > > > Choudarys > > > > preachings. > > > > > Houriya Ahmed, a researcher for the independent think-tank , said: I > > > > think > > > > they are just doing this for publicity. > > > > > Anjem Choudary is a ridiculous man. But that does not mean his ideology > > > > is > > > > not dangerous. > > > > > Muslim leader Abdul Hamid Qureshi, chairman of the Lancashire Council of > > > > Mosques, said: The sad fact is that this organisation is driving the > > > > agenda. > > > > What they are saying is totally wrong. They are only a small bunch of > > > > people. There is no sense in it it is not Islam. > > > > > A Scotland Yard spokesman said: We are discussing the potential > > > > demonstrations on October 31. > > > > > 1.gif > > > > 3KViewDownload > > > > > 136843_1.jpg > > > > 20KViewDownload > > > > > white-house-mosque.jpg > > > > 38KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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