Plain,

Well certainly not in this incidence.

On Nov 2, 11:56 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> NEVER Seek “Help” from the State’s Armed Enforcers
> ---
> not good advice
>
> remember, they are the good guys, most of the time
>
> On Nov 1, 12:57 pm, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > NEVERSeek “Help” from the State’s Armed EnforcersPosted byWilliam Griggon 
> > November 1, 2009 08:03 AM
> > Niles Leo Meservey, a 51-year-old resident of Stanwood, Washington, was 
> > drunk and belligerent when he slumped into the seat behind the steering 
> > wheel of his Corvette last June 10.
> > Meservey had been cut off by the bartender after he had inflicted his 
> > unwanted attention on a couple of women at a nearby club, briefly dragging 
> > one of them onto the dance floor.
> > Several people were worried about the prospect of the intoxicated man 
> > attempting to drive home when he clearly presented a risk to himself and 
> > others. One of them, Trisha Tribble,called 911.
> > “We’re really concerned about a guy leaving the parking lot of Chuckwagon 
> > [Inn] on Evergreen Way in a white Corvette, he’s extremely intoxicated,” 
> > Tribble told the dispatcher.
> > Several officers from the Everett Police Department soon arrived; among 
> > them were Troy Meade, an 11-year-veteran, and Officer Steven Klocker. Meade 
> > arrived at about 11:39 PM; Klocker reached the scene a little less than 
> > five minutes later.
> > At the time Officer Meade arrived, Meservey was hedged in by cars on either 
> > side of his Corvette, and cut off by a parking lot fence in front of him. 
> > Meade pulled up behind Meservey’s car, effectively boxing him in.
> > Joanne Hancock, who was smoking outside the Chuckwagon Inn when the police 
> > arrived, went inside to tell others concerned about Meservey that “They’ve 
> > got him!” The news prompted a small group of people to go outside to watch 
> > the arrest.
> > By the time Klocker arrived to provide “backup,” Meade had spent perhaps 
> > five  minutes trying to convince Meservey to get out of the car. Klocker 
> > would laterreportthat Meade’s tone and attitude toward the intoxicated man 
> > were “belligerent,” and that he “used language which made him [Klocker] 
> > uncomfortable because of the nearby civilians.”
> > “I don’t know why the f**k I am trying to save your dumb ass,” Meade 
> > snarled at Meservey, according to Klocker’s account.
> > Both Meade and Klocker withdrew their portable electro-shock torture 
> > devices (more commonly called Tasers). Meade, who was closest to the 
> > driver, shot Meservey with his Taser through the open driver’s side window, 
> > inflicting two separate strikes one five seconds long, the other six 
> > seconds’ duration.
> > “Why in the f**k did you do that?” muttered the drunken man, who 
> > predictably enough didn’t want to stick around for any more abuse. He 
> > reached for his keys and started the car, but he had nowhere to go: It 
> > lurched over a concrete curb and ran into an unyielding chain-link fence.
> > Bear in mind, once again, that Meservey was entirely boxed in. It was 
> > possible, albeit with some difficulty, for Officer Meade to reach through 
> > the window and seize the car keys, rather than escalating the situation by 
> > using potentially deadly force.
> > But Meade’s pointless escalation didn’t stop with the two Taser strikes.
> > After Meservey’s brief attempt to drive away, Meade according to the 
> > official police account took up a position near the left rear wheel of the 
> > Corvette, and pulled his gun.
> > “Time to end this,” bellowed Meade, according to Klocker. “Enough is 
> > enough.” From a distance of six to seven feet, Meade fired eight shots into 
> > the car, murdering Meservey.
> > When several other police officers arrived a few minutes later, Meade was 
> > seen pacing back and forth near the murder scene.
> > “I’m out of it,” he exclaimed to one of the new arrivals. “I want my 
> > Garrity.”
> > The“Garrity Rule”adapted from the 1967 Supreme Court rulingGarrity v. New 
> > Jersey, which involved a ticket-fixing scandal triggers an enhancement of 
> > the right against self-incrimination that only the government’s armed 
> > enforcers enjoy: Any statements made after the magical Garrity incantation 
> > is uttered can only be used for the purpose of a departmental 
> > investigation, not for criminal prosecution.
> > Klocker, who witnessed the entire incident, pointed out to investigators 
> > that when Meservey’s body was pulled from the car, the prongs of Officer 
> > Meade’s Taser were still firmly embedded in his shoulder.
> > “I’m thinking as I ‘m dragging him … why didn’t we [shock] him 
> > again?”Klocker told investigators.If escalation had been “necessary,” 
> > Klocker thought, Meade would have used the Taser again, or resorted to 
> > pepper spray. “I would never have shot [Meservey]… I don’t think we had 
> > reached that level of force yet,” Klocker concluded.
> > What seems obvious to someone not indoctrinated in the state’s view of 
> > discretionary killing is this:There was no reason to use force of any kind 
> > in this situation, beyond the minimal amount necessary to take the keys 
> > away from Meservey. Once that was accomplished, the intoxicated man had 
> > nowhere to go, and it would have been a matter of patiently waiting for him 
> > to leave his car, or fall asleep.
> > Rather that choosing an approach of that kind, Meade (who was involved in a 
> > prior lethal shooting a few years ago) went up the escalation ladder very 
> > quickly vaulting from confrontational and abusive language to lethal 
> > violence within a matter of minutes.
> > Meade did provide an ironic service of sorts by offering such a compelling 
> > display of the fact that citizens face the risk of lethal violence 
> > ineveryencounter they have with law enforcement personnel. Making that 
> > point was obviously not worth the price of a man’s life.
> > Meservey’s daughter has filed a $15 million wrongful death claim against 
> > Everett.Meade has been charged with first-degree manslaughterand placed on 
> > paid vacation (aka “administrative leave”); unlike a private citizen 
> > charged with lethally shooting an unarmed man six times in the back, Meade 
> > is loose on his own recognizance.Meade’s attorney defends the murderas the 
> > result of a “split-second decision” (it wasn’t, as we’ve seen) and 
> > predicts, with tragically justifiable confidence, that the officer will be 
> > acquitted in court.It’s entirely likely that Meade wouldn’t have been 
> > indicted if it weren’t for rising public concern over recent police 
> > shootings in Everett.
> > Trisha Tribble, who called 911, was mortified by the death of Meservey, 
> > whom she described as “this drunken guy, [who] was obviously out of his 
> > mind.”
> > “There was no reason for him to die,” she commented after the slaying.
> > And that was the trouble with Tribble’s actions the night of June 10: Any 
> > time we seek “help” from the state’s armed enforcers, we’re effectively 
> > inviting them to use lethal force.
> > (Thanks to LRC reader J.C. Warren for the tip.)- Hide quoted text -
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