According to one recent opinion poll, an astonishing 53 per cent of southerners are either convinced their President really is a covert foreigner ... --- that he may have been born in another country is secondary - that he is a socialist puppet owned by jews is our primary concern
how can you trust a man who was born a muslim, claims to be a xian, yet prays with the jews? http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/plainolamerican/obama20at20wailing20wall.jpg On Nov 30, 3:32 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > Did Barack Obama lie about his birth to become President? > > By DAVID > JONES<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=David+Jones> > Last > updated at 10:00 PM on 27th November 2009 > > - Comments > (61)<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231542/Barack-Obama-British-...> > - Add to My > Stories<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231542/Barack-Obama-British-...> > > As a highly regarded young detective, Neil Sankey was once seconded to elite > Scotland Yard units hunting down IRA bombers, dangerous anarchists and > organised crime barons. > > Today, however, almost 30 years after quitting Hampshire constabulary to > become a private investigator in California, he is wrestling with an inquiry > that is as controversial as it is complex; one that makes that his former > police work seem mundane by comparison. > > Now aged 64, and semi-retired, Mr Sankey is attempting to prove that Barack > Obama is guilty of the most audacious act of fraud in U.S political history, > having become President when he was not even eligible to run for office. > [image: Barack Obama] > > The infant Obama with his mother, Ann Dunham, who met his father at > university > > He is conducting his inquiries on behalf of a protest group known as the > 'Birthers' - so-called because they claim Obama lied about his birth place > to satisfy the requirements of the U.S constitution, which stipulates that > the President must be a 'natural born' American citizen. > > According to his biography, Obama was born 48 years ago in Hawaii, the 50th > state of the union. But the Birthers are convinced that he came into the > world in Kenya, his father's homeland, and Mr Sankey claims he has already > uncovered a great deal of evidence to support this astonishing assertion. > > 'As an investigator it has become obvious to me that something very strange > is going on,' he intoned gravely when we spoke this week. > > 'His background throws up all kinds of anomalies. It may sound incredible > (but) this guy comes from nowhere. No one really knows who he is.' > > To most Americans, of course, the very idea that anyone could cheat their > way into the world's most powerful post by rewriting their personal history > sounds preposterous. > > They dismiss the Birthers as a bunch of crackpot conspiracy theorists and > closet racists who still cannot accept a black leader, even though Obama won > the election by some 10 million votes. > > More... > > - Mrs O-so fashionable: A year in the life of the First Lady of > style<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-1229224/Michelle-Obama-Mr...> > > Yet the number of people who believe this apparently outlandish theory is > extraordinarily high, particularly in the southern states, where old racial > divisions endure. > > According to one recent opinion poll, an astonishing 53 per cent of > southerners are either convinced their President really is a covert > foreigner, or at least feel unsure about the matter. In more integrated > parts of the country, the doubters remain a small minority. > > However, with the tide of goodwill that greeted Obama's victory now ebbing > away, after a series of perceived mistakes and unfulfilled promises, the > Birthers are gaining credence in mainstream America. > > They claim to have amassed 500,000 signatures on a petition insisting that > the President must prove beyond doubt where he was born; and all across the > country, giant billboards are sprouting up which make the same shrill > demand. > > Mounted this week outside a car dealership in Denver, Colorado, the latest > such sign depicted Obama wearing a turban. > > 'Birth certificate - Prove It!' read the accompanying slogan, adding: > 'President or Jihad?' > > 'Everything I've read about Mr Obama points right to the fact that he's a > Muslim,' explained the car showroom's owner, Phil Wolf. > > 'It's about anti-Americanism. It's about anti-Christianity.' > > Questions about Obama's birthplace were first raised during the 2008 > presidential election campaign. > > Then, even hard-line Republicans and Right-wing pundits distanced themselves > from this line of attack, fearing they would be accused of bigotry or cheap > scaremongering. > > Now that is changing, and one of the country's most respected political > commentators, Lou Dobbs, not only encourages debate about this once-taboo > subject on his TV and radio shows, but appears to have aligned himself with > the sceptics. > > 'I believe Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States, folks, don't you? > But I do have a couple of little questions, like you,' Dobbs remarked with > ill-disguised mischief during one recent broadcast. > > 'Why not just provide a copy of the birth certificate? That's entirely > within the President's power to do so. One would think the President would > want to get rid of this nonsense. But he doesn't - and so, none of us knows > what the reality is.' > > Fuelled by a constant stream of internet traffic which casts doubts on > Obama's authenticity, the whole issue refuses to go away. And working > doggedly in a cluttered office at his home in Simi Valley, an hour's drive > north of Los Angeles, British-born detective Neil Sankey is determined to > keep it that way. > [image: Former detective Neil Sankey is on a quest to find the truth about > Obama's birth] > > Former detective Neil Sankey is on a quest to find the truth about Obama's > birth > > A father of five children, three of whom now run the family investigation > agency, Mr Sankey's quest began during the presidential primaries in spring, > 2008. > > After reading about the Birthers, he met the fringe group's self-anointed > leader, Orly Taitz, 47, a one-woman phenomenon who emigrated to America from > the former Soviet Union (via Israel), speaks five languages, and is a > qualified dentist with two practices, as well as being an attorney. > > As she reeled off an endless list of apparent discrepancies in the Obama > nativity story, Mr Sankey was intrigued, and offered to use his old school > British police training to provide the hard proof she needed to back up her > theories. > > Since then he has contacted all the 538 Electoral College representatives > who formally elect the President, in a vain attempt to persuade them Obama > is ineligible to serve, and supplied evidence for a series of court actions > brought by the Birthers, in their efforts to have him disbarred. > > The latest of these was heard last month in Orange County district court, > where the Plaintiffs included the leader of a fringe political movement > called the American Independence Party and several disaffected servicemen, > who contended that, as a bogus U.S. citizen, Obama was not qualified to send > them into action as Commander-in-Chief. > > Like every other such case, it was summarily dismissed on procedural grounds > even before the evidence could be heard. However absurd such cases may be, > Mr Sankey, who works for the group voluntarily and estimates having spent > £40,000 of his own money following leads, is at pains to present himself as > a level-headed former British bobby, motivated only by a determination to > find the truth. > > He also bristles at the suggestion that his mission is racially motivated. > > 'The objection is not Obama's colour but his politics,' says Mr Sankey. 'I > like him as a person - I just wish he was genuine.' > > So what do we know about Obama's earliest years, and why, even among > millions of ordinary, decent Americans, do doubts that he was 'natural born' > (a term which is broadly accepted to mean anyone born in the United States > or its territories, regardless of their parents' nationality) still linger? > > After Barack Obama emerged from the obscurity of backwater Illinois state > politics to beguile the world with his charisma and rhetoric, it seemed that > every detail of his exotic and complicated ancestry had been laid bare. > > He had already published two autobiographies, Dreams From My Father and The > Audacity Of Hope, and although they contained occasional perplexing > episodes, he seemed refreshingly candid about his unconventional > beginnings. > > His father, we were told, was Barack Obama senior, a brilliant but wayward > Kenyan academic who won a scholarship to study economics at the University > of Hawaii in 1959, when he was 23 years old. > > In 'Dreams', Obama says his father was given the opportunity to study in > America by way of the so-called 'Kennedy Airlift', in which JFK opened the > nation's universities to scores of promising African students. > [image: The Birthers' self-anointed leader, Orly Taitz] > > The Birthers' self-anointed leader, Orly Taitz, who believes Barack Obama > has lied about his birth > > But it later emerged that the great airlift did not get under way until the > year after Barack Sr arrived from Kenya: one of many small factual variants > seized upon by the Birthers as 'proof' that his story was fabricated. Obama > Sr is said to have met Ann Dunham, then 17, when both attended Russian > language classes at the university. > > Though he had two children already by his wife in Kenya, tribal law > permitted him to marry twice, and they began an affair. Ann was three months > pregnant when - against the wishes of both their families - they married on > the Hawaiian island of Maui, on February 2, 1961. Obama was officially born > five months later in the Kapioalani Hospital, Honolulu; a fact which appears > to be verified by a document issued by Hawaii's health department a few > months ago. > > Posted online by the Obama camp in the hope that it would scotch the > corrosive rumours once and for all, it is not his official birth > certificate, but rather a medical 'certification of live birth' which states > that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Honolulu at 7.24pm, on August 4, > 1961. > > It is marked as having been filed by the registrar on August 8, four days > after the birth, and notes that his father was 'African'. > > To the Birthers, however, this proves nothing. In fact, it only adds to the > mystery, for they question why Obama will not sanction the release of his > proper birth certificate, which would provide far more detail. > > Moreover, the official seal on the document seems, to their eye, > suspiciously faint. And in those days, when segregation was still rife in > parts of the U.S., they ask, would the race of Obama's father really have > been listed in the modern usage, 'African', when the usual word then was > 'negro'? > > The Birthers also point to a photograph of Ann Dunham, supposedly taken on > Waikiki beach during the summer of 1961. Wearing a bikini, she doesn't look > remotely pregnant. These are just two of many reasons why they are convinced > that Obama is not who he says he is, and that a very different version of > his birth story lies hidden. > > The Birthers' favourite theory is that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya, while > his mother was visiting his father's family, and that his parents only > registered the birth in Hawaii when they returned shortly afterwards, > presumably to give him U.S. citizenship. > > To support this they have produced various dubious pieces of evidence, most > notably a tape recorded phone-call in which Obama's paternal grandmother, > Sarah, seems to admit she was in the delivery room at his birth, along with > other relatives. > > This taped conversation is hardly convincing, however, for the 87- year-old > woman's remarks were translated from her native Swahili down a crackly > phone-line. > > And her inquisitor was the so-called 'Birther Bishop', Anabaptist minister > Ron McCrae, who is deeply opposed to Obama, and - say critics - cynically > set out to trap her. She has since complained that her recollections were > doctored, but, of course, this cuts no ice with the Birthers. > > Locked away in a Kenyan vault, they would have us believe, is his genuine > birth certificate: a piece of paper that could have Obama drummed out of the > White House in disgrace. > > According to the most zealous Birthers, however, this is only part of the > labyrinthine plot which lies behind his rise to high office. It is said to > have been concocted many years ago, by subversives whose aim was to change > the face of America by placing a Leftwinger with Islamic sympathies in > power. > > As evidence that this is already beginning to happen, the Birthers point to > Obama's 'socialist' healthcare reforms, his appeasement of Iran, and the > government's quasi-nationalisation of struggling banks and U.S. car giant > General Motors. > > Mr Sankey insists he does not share such wacky conspiracy theories. But > then, almost in the next breath, the former detective sergeant - who served > Hampshire police for 20 years and left with an exemplary record - ventures > that Obama's real father might have been the black revolutionary leader, > Malcolm X. > > He explains, in all seriousness, how this could be possible. Apparently > Malcolm X (who, as it happens, was definitely American-born) visited Hawaii > around the time Obama was conceived, and he and Ann Dunham might have moved > in the same radical circles. > [image: President Barack Obama] > [image: Malcolm X] > > Conspiracy: Neil Sankey even believes Barack Obama's father could be > militant black rights leader Malcolm X, right > > Warming to his theme, Mr Sankey directs me to a website which juxtaposes > photographs of the two men to compare their extraordinary likeness. > > He later sends me a 315-page 'timeline' of Obama's supposed background, > compiled by a Brazil-based Birther, which reads like the conspiracy > theorists' ultimate wish-list, and draws in everyone from Islamic extremists > to Arab princes and the Chicago Mafia. > > It all sounds utterly crazy, of course, and involves a plot so complicated > that it makes the Da Vinci Code look plausible. Are we really supposed to > believe that everyone from Obama's friends and relatives to the security > services (who surely must have investigated his background with great care > when his victory became likely) would help orchestrate such a conspiracy? > > Can we really imagine that Obama's family were so devious - and prescient - > that they placed his birth notice in Honolulu's two main newspapers just > days after he was born? > > As the President's spokesman Robert Gibbs says, no evidence will ever be > enough to 'assuage those that don't believe he was born here'. > > Neil Sankey insists he is open minded, however, and says he would gladly > abandon his investigation, if only the President would provide the > incontrovertible evidence he seeks. > > Now a U.S. citizen, he claims he is only helping the Birthers because he > wants to uphold the constitution. > > 'It's a beautifully written document and it's served us very well for 200 > years,' he says. 'If Obama is who he says he is, why doesn't he just show us > that full birth certificate?' > > This week, the White House refused to answer his question, saying they had > no further comment on the matter. > > It is a sad irony, though, that so many Americans feel sufficiently > dissatisfied by their first black President that they would rather put their > trust in a British detective and his curious conspiracy theories. > > Explore more:People: Barack > Obama<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/people/obama_barack> > Places: Los > Angeles<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/cities/los_angeles> > , Denver <http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/cities/denver>, > Israel<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/countries/israel> > , Brazil <http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/countries/brazil>, > Kenya<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/countries/kenya> > , Islamic Republic of > Iran<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/countries/islamic_republic_o...> > , America <http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/locations/continents/america> > Organisations: Scotland > Yard<http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/organisations/scotland_yard> > , White House <http://explore.dailymail.co.uk/organisations/white_house> > > Read > more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231542/Barack-Obama-British-... -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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