the
military leaders are not elected officials
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but they're more ignorant and paid less

On Dec 3, 9:21 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Plain,
>
> But you're not even going to pay them you cheap fuck, why would they
> listen to your advice? How you going to "pick their replacements", the
> military leaders are not elected officials.
>
> On Dec 3, 7:51 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well fuck, you don't think they are going to follow YOU, do you?
> > ---
> > no - I wouldn't pay them
>
> >  You
> > expect them to deliver the bad guys to your door, neatly sedated and
> > hog-tied?
> > ---
> > no
> > but if they won't do their fucking jobs I'll gladly pick their
> > replacements
>
> > On Dec 3, 6:28 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Plain,
>
> > > Well fuck, you don't think they are going to follow YOU, do you? You
> > > expect them to deliver the bad guys to your door, neatly sedated and
> > > hog-tied?
>
> > > On Dec 3, 4:38 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > so volunteer Rambo and collect those
> > > > buckets of blood you long so for
> > > > ---
> > > > too old and wise to follow dumbass military leaders w/o a clue
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 4:20 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Plain,
>
> > > > > Ain't no draft lad, hasn't been since the mid 70's, they are not going
> > > > > to call. A fact I'm sure you're counting on.
> > > > >  It's a volunteer military, so volunteer Rambo and collect those
> > > > > buckets of blood you long so for.
>
> > > > > On Dec 3, 3:32 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I don't play video games.
>
> > > > > > If they need me they'll call - until then they should do their 
> > > > > > fucking
> > > > > > jobs
>
> > > > > > On Dec 3, 3:24 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Plain,
>
> > > > > > > Wasn't referring to the latest Playstation game you acquired BOB.
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2:22 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I'd be honored to fire the first shot.
>
> > > > > > > > I'll aim for the head first.
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 1:16 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Plain,
>
> > > > > > > > > You get right on that BOB.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 11:00 am, plainolamerican 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > dead pirates can't hijack ships
>
> > > > > > > > > > let the killin' begin!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 10:18 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >  http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=2289558
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Pirate stock exchange helps fund hijackings
>
> > > > > > > > > > > *Mohamed Ahmed, Reuters  *Published: Tuesday, December 
> > > > > > > > > > > 01, 2009
>
> > > > > > > > > > > HARADHEERE, Somalia -- In Somalia's main pirate lair of 
> > > > > > > > > > > Haradheere, the sea
> > > > > > > > > > > gangs have set up a cooperative to fund their hijackings 
> > > > > > > > > > > offshore, a sort of
> > > > > > > > > > > stock exchange meets criminal syndicate.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Heavily armed pirates from the lawless Horn of Africa 
> > > > > > > > > > > nation have terrorized
> > > > > > > > > > > shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean and strategic Gulf of 
> > > > > > > > > > > Aden, which links
> > > > > > > > > > > Europe to Asia through the Red Sea.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The gangs have made tens of millions of dollars from 
> > > > > > > > > > > ransoms and a
> > > > > > > > > > > deployment by foreign navies in the area has only 
> > > > > > > > > > > appeared to drive the
> > > > > > > > > > > attackers to hunt further from shore.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It is a lucrative business that has drawn financiers from 
> > > > > > > > > > > the Somali
> > > > > > > > > > > diaspora and other nations -- and now the gangs in 
> > > > > > > > > > > Haradheere have set up an
> > > > > > > > > > > exchange to manage their investments.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > One wealthy former pirate named Mohammed took Reuters 
> > > > > > > > > > > around the small
> > > > > > > > > > > facility and said it had proved to be an important way 
> > > > > > > > > > > for the pirates to
> > > > > > > > > > > win support from the local community for their 
> > > > > > > > > > > operations, despite the
> > > > > > > > > > > dangers involved.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Four months ago, during the monsoon rains, we decided to 
> > > > > > > > > > > set up this stock
> > > > > > > > > > > exchange. We started with 15 'maritime companies' and now 
> > > > > > > > > > > we are hosting 72.
> > > > > > > > > > > Ten of them have so far been successful at hijacking," 
> > > > > > > > > > > Mohammed said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "The shares are open to all and everybody can take part, 
> > > > > > > > > > > whether personally
> > > > > > > > > > > at sea or on land by providing cash, weapons or useful 
> > > > > > > > > > > materials ... we've
> > > > > > > > > > > made piracy a community activity."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Haradheere, 400 km (250 miles) northeast of Mogadishu, 
> > > > > > > > > > > used to be a small
> > > > > > > > > > > fishing village. Now it is a bustling town where luxury 
> > > > > > > > > > > 4x4 cars owned by
> > > > > > > > > > > the pirates and those who bankroll them create honking 
> > > > > > > > > > > traffic jams along
> > > > > > > > > > > its pot-holed, dusty streets.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Somalia's Western-backed government of President Sheikh 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sharif Ahmed is
> > > > > > > > > > > pinned down battling hard-line Islamist rebels, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > controls little more
> > > > > > > > > > > than a few streets of the capital.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The administration has no influence in Haradheere -- 
> > > > > > > > > > > where a senior local
> > > > > > > > > > > official said piracy paid for almost everything.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Piracy-related business has become the main profitable 
> > > > > > > > > > > economic activity in
> > > > > > > > > > > our area and as locals we depend on their output," said 
> > > > > > > > > > > Mohamed Adam, the
> > > > > > > > > > > town's deputy security officer.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "The district gets a percentage of every ransom from 
> > > > > > > > > > > ships that have been
> > > > > > > > > > > released, and that goes on public infrastructure, 
> > > > > > > > > > > including our hospital and
> > > > > > > > > > > our public schools."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > RISK VS REWARDS
>
> > > > > > > > > > > In a drought-ravaged country that provides almost no 
> > > > > > > > > > > employment
> > > > > > > > > > > opportunities for fit young men, many are been drawn to 
> > > > > > > > > > > the allure of the
> > > > > > > > > > > riches they see being earned at sea.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Abdirahman Ali was a secondary school student in 
> > > > > > > > > > > Mogadishu until three
> > > > > > > > > > > months ago when his family fled the fighting there.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Given the choice of moving with his parents to Lego, 
> > > > > > > > > > > their ancestral home in
> > > > > > > > > > > Middle Shabelle where strict Islamist rebels have banned 
> > > > > > > > > > > most entertainment
> > > > > > > > > > > including watching sport, or joining the pirates, he 
> > > > > > > > > > > opted to head for
> > > > > > > > > > > Haradheere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Now he guards a Thai fishing boat held just offshore.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "First I decided to leave the country and migrate, but 
> > > > > > > > > > > then I remembered my
> > > > > > > > > > > late colleagues who died at sea while trying to migrate 
> > > > > > > > > > > to Italy," he told
> > > > > > > > > > > Reuters. "So I chose this option, instead of dying in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > desert or from
> > > > > > > > > > > mortars in Mogadishu."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Haradheere's "stock exchange" is open 24 hours a day and 
> > > > > > > > > > > serves as a
> > > > > > > > > > > bustling focal point for the town. As well as investors, 
> > > > > > > > > > > sobbing wives and
> > > > > > > > > > > mothers often turn up there seeking news of male 
> > > > > > > > > > > relatives missing in
> > > > > > > > > > > action.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Every week, Mohammed said, gang members and equipment 
> > > > > > > > > > > were lost to the sea.
> > > > > > > > > > > But he said the pirates were not deterred.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Ransoms have even increased in recent months from 
> > > > > > > > > > > between $2-3 million to
> > > > > > > > > > > $4 million because of the increased number of 
> > > > > > > > > > > shareholders and the risks,"
> > > > > > > > > > > he said.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Let the anti-piracy navies continue their search for us. 
> > > > > > > > > > > We have no worries
> > > > > > > > > > > because our motto for the job is 'do or die'."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Piracy investor Sahra Ibrahim, a 22-year-old divorcee, 
> > > > > > > > > > > was lined up with
> > > > > > > > > > > others waiting for her cut of a ransom pay-out after one 
> > > > > > > > > > > of the gangs freed
> > > > > > > > > > > a Spanish tuna fishing vessel.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "I am waiting for my share after I contributed a 
> > > > > > > > > > > rocket-propelled grenade
> > > > > > > > > > > for the operation," she said, adding that she got the 
> > > > > > > > > > > weapon from her
> > > > > > > > > > > ex-husband in alimony.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > "I am really happy and lucky. I have made $75,000 in only 
> > > > > > > > > > > 38 days since I
> > > > > > > > > > > joined the 'company'."
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