Zeb, So? No one gives a fuck what you think.
On Jan 7, 2:12 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we should take assholes who attempt to overturn the will of > the people using liberal judges and set them on fire in a public > square. > > On Jan 6, 2:40 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Home <http://www.washingtontimes.com/> � News > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news> � *National* > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/national> > > > Wednesday, January 6, 2010 > > > Gay-marriage foes slam plans to televise Prop 8 trial > > > Rate this story > > > /critic/1/1/79/407075/vote/?r=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-lash-out-at-plan-to-televise-pro/ > > /critic/1/2/79/407075/vote/?r=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-lash-out-at-plan-to-televise-pro/ > > /critic/1/3/79/407075/vote/?r=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-lash-out-at-plan-to-televise-pro/ > > /critic/1/4/79/407075/vote/?r=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-lash-out-at-plan-to-televise-pro/ > > /critic/1/5/79/407075/vote/?r=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-lash-out-at-plan-to-televise-pro/ > > > Average 0.00 > > after 0 votes > > Login or register to rate this story <javascript:registration_callback();> > > > Witnesses harassment feared > > > * Font Size - > > > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-las...>+ > > > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-las...> > > * Print > > > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-las...> > > * Email > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/mailfriend/79/407075/154889f326/> > > * Comment > > > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-las...> > > * Tweet this! > > > > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/gay-marriage-foes-las...> > > * Yahoo! 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Walker, chief judge of the Northern District of > > California, proposed a last-minute revision of the court's rules that > > would allow television coverage of the trial. Those who want to comment > > have until Friday, and the trial begins Monday. > > > Attorneys for Proposition 8 backers said television coverage would > > expose their witnesses to further harassment and intimidation. Backers > > of Proposition 8 were targeted for harassment in the months after the > > initiative's passage in November 2008. Some donors received threatening > > e-mails, letters and phone calls, while churches and businesses were > > singled out for boycotts and protests. > > > Brian Brown, executive director of the National Organization for > > Marriage, which campaigned for Proposition 8 but isn't a party to the > > case, said he is worried about the safety of witnesses, who could > > include contributors, campaign staff and volunteers. > > > "The question is really whether Judge Walker can put people on the stand > > where they can be threatened," said Mr. Brown. "It's a question of > > people's safety." > > > A hearing on the matter is scheduled for 10 a.m. Wednesday in San > > Francisco, said David Madden, a spokesman for the 9th U.S. Circuit Court > > of Appeals. > > > He said the rules and parameters for any televised coverage were under > > discussion, including decisions on how many cameras to allow, where to > > place the cameras, and whose cameras would be permitted in the courtroom. > > > "We're trying to work this all out," said Mr. Madden. "We want to make > > sure people know we're being very cautious about this." > > > The court ordinarily bans television, radio and photography, but the > > Judicial Council of the 9th Circuit announced Dec. 17 that it approved > > on an experimental basis "the limited use of cameras in federal courts > > within the system." > > > "We hope that being able to see and hear what transpires in the > > courtroom will lead to a better public understanding of our judicial > > processes and enhanced confidence in the rule of law," said 9th Circuit > > Chief Judge Alex Kozinski. "The experiment is designed to help us find > > the right balance between the public's right to access to the courts and > > the parties' right to a fair and dignified proceeding." > > > Since 1991, the 9th Circuit has allowed some television and radio > > broadcasting of oral arguments with the approval of the judges hearing > > the case, according to a statement issued by the court. > > > Those backing cameras in the courtroom include a consortium of media > > outlets as well as gay rights groups. The Courage Campaign on Tuesday > > sent an alert asking its members to sign a petition in favor of > > television coverage. > > > "The case presents issues that are very important to the public, and > > will affect millions of people," said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the > > Courage Campaign, a group that advocates gay marriage. "However, if the > > case is not televised, only a tiny fraction will ever be able to watch > > the trial in person. > > > "By televising the trial, the public will be able to see for themselves > > the arguments and evidence presented by both sides, and will therefore > > have more confidence in the outcome of the trial," he said. > > > Meanwhile, opponents of same-sex marriage point out that the > > experimental use of cameras was intended initially for low-profile > > cases, while the Proposition 8 trial has generated huge media interest. > > > The lawsuit, filed in June by two same-sex couples, argues that > > Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution. Representing the > > plaintiffs are high-profile lawyers Theodore Olson and David Boies, who > > argued on opposite sides of the U.S. Supreme Court case to decide the > > 2000 presidential election. > > > Critics have accused Judge Walker of judicial bias, pointing to an > > earlier ruling against Proposition 8. Attorneys for the plaintiffs had > > asked to see internal Proposition 8 campaign communications, arguing > > that they might reveal attempts to create a "discriminatory animus" > > against gays. > > > Judge Walker ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, but a federal appeals > > court panel in December reversed his decision. > > > "Judge Walker has not shown himself to be an impartial judge in this > > case," said Mr. Brown. "He has attempted to make this entire process a > > circus, and he wants to be the ringleader by putting it on television." > > > The California Supreme Court ruled in favor of allowing same-sex > > marriage in May 2008, but the decision was overruled six months later by > > Proposition 8, which California voters approved by a margin of 52 > > percent to 48 percent. > > > [Get Copyright Permissions] Click here for reprint permissions! > > <http://license.icopyright.net/3.7280?icx_id=/news/2010/jan/06/gay-mar...> > > Copyright 2009 The Washington Times, LLC- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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