All that and not one mention of the reason she went...... how convenient.
During the Vietnam War, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff considered and rejected some additions to strategic bombing campaigns that would include targeting a series of dikes and dams along Vietnam's Red River delta. A classified 1965 USAF report suggested that the Red River flood control system could probably not be destroyed by conventional aerial bombing. [1] In 1966 John McNaughton, Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, proposed the destruction of the Red River Valley dams and dikes in order to flood rice paddies, disrupt the North Vietnamese food supply, and leverage Hanoi during negotiations; then- Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, however, rejected the idea. [2] President Richard Nixon and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger discussed bombing the dike network in a 1972 conversation on Operation Linebacker II, later published by journalist Daniel Ellsberg: Nixon: We've got to quit thinking in terms of a three-day strike [in the Hanoi-Haiphong area]. We've got to be thinking in terms of an all- out bombing attack - which will continue until they - Now by all-out bombing attack, I am thinking about things that go far beyond. I'm thinking of the dikes, I'm thinking of the railroad, I'm thinking, of course, the docks. Kissinger: I agree with you. President Nixon: We've got to use massive force. Two hours later at noon, H. R. Haldeman and Ron Ziegler joined Kissinger and Nixon: President: How many did we kill in Laos? Ziegler: Maybe ten thousand - fifteen? Kissinger: In the Laotian thing, we killed about ten, fifteen. President: See, the attack in the North that we have in mind, power plants, whatever's left - POL [petroleum], the docks. And, I still think we ought to take the dikes out now. Will that drown people? Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people. President: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry? Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much. President: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes. (Ellsberg p. 418, ellipses original) On Jan 8, 10:27 pm, Daniel Seigler <[email protected]> wrote: > I remember that my father and four cousins were over there when SHE went > to "visit" and put our troops in danger by DEMANDING that they protect her. > I do NOT remember if any of them were ever POW, but those were not the only > ones fighting and dying there.Fortunately (?) all my family came back alive. > My father with alot of metal where bone should have been, but alive. My > Cousin is not the same man i remember as a child. > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: FW: NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:18:40 -0600 > > NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR > > SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! > > And now OBAMA wants to honor her ......!!!! > > In Memory of > My brother -in- law > LT. C.Thomsen Wieland > > Who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton > > IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED > ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!! > > She really is a traitor > > A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED > KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA > > This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do > Not remember, and didn't have to bear the > Burden that our fathers, mothers and older > Brothers and sisters had to bear. > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the > '100 Women of the Century.' > > BY BARBRA WALTERS > > Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still > Countless others have never known how Ms. > Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, > But specific men who served and sacrificed > During Vietnam > > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. > > The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. > > In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF > Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison > The ' Hanoi Hilton.' > > Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, > Cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was > Ordered to describe for a visiting American > 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane > Treatment he'd received. > > He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was > Dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward > On to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk. > > In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which > permanently ended his > Flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton. > > From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 > years in the > 'Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only knew he was > 'missing in action'. > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the > cleaned-up, fed and > Clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit. > > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they > were alive > And still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social > Security Number > On it , in the palm of his hand. > > When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking > each > man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you > bombed > Babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent > captors?' > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > > She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once > the camera stopped > Rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in > charge and handed > Him all the little pieces of paper. > > Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost > number four > But he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day. > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured > by the North > Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 > years. > > I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; > and one year > In a 'black box' in Hanoi My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned > and murdered a female missionary, a > Nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the > jungle near the > Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal > weight is 170 lbs) > > We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....' > > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political > officer if I would > Be willing to meet with her.. > > I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs > received... And how > Different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and > parroted by her as > 'humane and lenient.' > > Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my > arms outstretched > With a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. > > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I > asked her > If she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me. > > These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored > as part > of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget...' 100 Years of Great Women' > should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so > many patriots. > > There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's > participation in > blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many > people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and > she needs to know that we will never forget. > RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF > 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of > Maintenance > DSN: 875-6431 > COMM: 883-6343 > > PLEASE HELP BY > SENDING THIS > TO EVERYONE > IN YOUR ADDRESS > BOOK. IF ENOUGH > PEOPLE SEE THIS > MAYBE HER > STATUS WILL > CHANGE > > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail > Free.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ > > ATT0086516.jpg > 47KViewDownload > > ATT0086824.jpg > 49KViewDownload > > ATT0087131.jpg > 80KViewDownload > > ATT0087442.jpg > 60KViewDownload > > ATT0087755.jpg > 71KViewDownload > > ATT0088063.jpg > 65KViewDownload > > imstp_animation_butterflies_en_020908.gif > 42KViewDownload
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