how about we change the form to only include the number of American
citizens and illegal alien/criminals living in the house?
zero regard to color, ethnicity, age, sex, etc?

btw - how much doss the ACLU pay you to post the word nazi?

On Mar 10, 9:11 am, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Census and History: It Is Not a Pretty Picture!by Gary D. BarnettI have 
> been discussing the unconstitutional nature and danger of modern census 
> taking for several years. By attempting to expose through my writing the very 
> invasive practice of the “census,” and by educating others about the false 
> reasoning for these government intrusions, my hope is that more and more 
> people will contradict the accepted system by not complying with the census 
> process. One can do this and still remain within constitutional bounds simply 
> by refusing to give any information other than the number of people living in 
> a particular home. This seems simple enough, but due to threats of fine or 
> worse, and threats by the federal government to withhold tax redistributions 
> from state, county and local communities, the populace at large continues to 
> acquiesce to “State” pressure.
> As I alluded to above, I have published several articles [see my LRC 
> archives] concerning the census. I talked about the regular decennial census, 
> the American Community Survey, the Economic Census and more, and I have 
> received hundreds of responses due to these essays. Many of those whose 
> letters I received wanted to know how much if any information they should 
> give, and if they chose not to comply, would they risk penalties or worse. In 
> addition to the many questions I have been asked, I have also received many, 
> many personal stories about the abusive conduct, threats and outright 
> aggression displayed by census takers. Some of these stories were disturbing 
> to say the least.
> Today, I received a letter from a distraught woman who has been hounded for 
> months due to a government survey of which I was unfamiliar. It is called 
> theSurvey of Income and Program Participationor SIPP. The basis or main 
> objective of this “mandatory” government survey is “to provide accurate and 
> comprehensive information about the income and program participation of 
> individuals and households in the United States, and about the principle 
> determinates of income and participation. SIPP offers detailed information on 
> cash and noncash income on a sub-annual basis. While I don’t believe in 
> transfer payments (welfare), this survey affects many more than just those 
> currently on the dole. If you think the regular census is invasive, wait 
> until you hear about this one.
> One huge difference in this survey is the time and multiple interviewing 
> processes that are evident. It is a multi-panel survey that includes 
> primarily adults in households in the United States, interviewed at least 
> nine times at four-month intervals and followed over the life of the panel. 
> These surveys last 2 to 4 years, and are conducted with the same sampling of 
> people. Because of the very extensive and long-term nature of this ridiculous 
> survey, it has the highest non-compliance problems. Of course, logic would 
> dictate then, that it is the least effective as far as accuracy is concerned. 
> But don’t fear, I’m sure the Department of Commerce will continue to plow 
> more and more money into this survey so that they can continue to “improve 
> the quality” and “efficiency” of government programs.
> In addition to all the different mandatory censuses and surveys that are ever 
> present, the 2010 census is now also in full gear. Locally, as I’m sure is 
> the case nationwide, census takers are aggressively attempting to gain as 
> much information about everyone as they can. In addition to being mailed to 
> recipients as is normal, many census packets are being hand-delivered to each 
> household. The initial correspondence according to many I have talked to 
> begins with threats of penalties for not completing the forms and ends with 
> very inappropriate questions about one’s personal life and property. One of 
> my neighbors told me that when the census taker arrived at his door, the 
> first words out of his mouth were: “This census is mandatory and required by 
> law, and penalties apply if it is not filled out completely.” In my opinion 
> and just as I suspected, the 2010 census has already become the most invasive 
> and the most advertised in history; and it has only just begun!
> If you watched the Super Bowl or any other major sports event recently, 
> especially the Winter Olympics, you must realize that there has been an 
> absoluteblitzof ads concerning the “importance” of the 2010 census. The 
> Hollywood crowd is on board as well, and this pressure will not subside any 
> time soon. All of you will receive your census packet in the mail or you will 
> be blessed with a personal visit from your local census taker. The 
> government-controlled main-stream media is certainly doing their part in 
> promoting government intrusions into our private matters, as are area schools 
> and local officials. Many are involved in this propaganda so the 
> indoctrination goes on!
> Lest we forget history, a reminder may be of value here. The census process 
> is not new nor is it an American idea. It is certainly a product of 
> government, and was used in ancient and medieval times. In fact, the world's 
> oldest extant census data comes from China during the Han Dynasty in 2 AD. 
> Census taking has been used over time for many reasons, probably the most 
> apparent being for the purpose of taxation. In fact, the most developed of 
> the ancient censuses was that of the Roman Empire, and this accounting of 
> people and property played a crucial role in Rome’s governance because it 
> provided a register of citizens and their property from which their duties 
> and privileges could be listed.
> The most heinous use of the census process was that of the Nazi Census 
> System. The Hitler regime, according to Gotz Aly and Karl Heinz Roth in their 
> bookThe Nazi Census, developed the techniques the Nazis employed to track, 
> gather information, and control populations. This was the initiation of the 
> modern system of citizen registration, and was the pioneering impetus forboth 
> the concepts and the processes of modern statistics-gathering about 
> populations.Counts began with the collection of data concerning Germans, but 
> ended with the specific collection of information about Jews and other 
> minorities. The results, as everyone now knows, were devastating! One has to 
> wonder; does this knowledge of past census fact force one to question why one 
> of the main functions of our own decennial census is to verify race and 
> ethnicity?
> The point I want to make is that data-collection by government about the 
> citizenry is always dangerous. Future uses of this private information can 
> never be known. Besides the fact that it is anti-liberty, it allows the state 
> to monitor its citizens, and also sets the stage for an easier path for 
> government to control the people. While the U.S. Census may seem harmless 
> enough to the masses, it could eventually lead to disastrous results. Today 
> we are not only being counted by government, but are having our private 
> information gathered and data-based as well. Our phones are tapped, our 
> emails are captured, our movements are watched, our financial records are 
> monitored and warrantless search and seizure is common.
> The writing is on the wall and it is clear: It says enough is 
> enough!http://www.lewrockwell.com/barnett/barnett18.1.html

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