Mark,

That pretty much nails the problem I'd say.

On Mar 20, 12:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> The countries that have basically figured it out are ALL multi-"party"
> nations that have "coalition" based governments. The US system is just
> too corrupt in the way it hands out "favors" for votes instead of
> passing a piece of legislation based SOLELY on its merits as written
> when presented for a vote. The representatives obviously do NOT vote
> the will of their constituency... There has NOT been a single poll
> taken (Dems have stopped producing or taking polls) that favors this
> present boondoggle that is being sold as healthcare. They have even
> excluded themselves from its clutches.
>
> On Mar 20, 7:11 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sage2,
>
> > Who the fuck is "Mac Daddy" and how do you know he lives in Detroit?
>
> > Why are you suddenly all sensitive about America not being able to
> > figure out a problem so may other countries have managed to, and your
> > habit of pissing your pants in fear of offending Corporate America?
> > Thought you were proud of it.
>
> > On Mar 19, 11:54 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >                  Holly,
>
> > >              So be European,  just take 50% of your hard earned money
> > > and give it to Mac Daddy in Detroit if you are so genorous !
>
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> > >  ­**************
>
> > > On Mar 20, 12:22 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > dick,
>
> > > > What the fuck, let's just scrap the whole idea. Everyone knows that
> > > > Americans are simply too corrupt and stupid to figure it out. We
> > > > should just stumble along spending approx. 25% of our GNP on health
> > > > care. Let's leave complicated things like this to Europeans,
> > > > Canadians, Australians and Asians.
>
> > > > What the fuck do "business executives" NOT complain about?
>
> > > > On Mar 19, 10:46 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >   Caterpillar: Health care bill would cost it $100M
>
> > > > > Published on March 19, 2010 7:10 AM | Submit a comment
> > > > > <http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/03/caterpillar-health-car...>
>
> > > > > Caterpillar.jpgA worker at Caterpillar's plant in Mossville, Ill. 
> > > > > (Jos�
> > > > > Mor�/Chicago Tribune)
>
> > > > > *Dow Jones Newswires | *Caterpillar Inc. said the health-care overhaul
> > > > > legislation being considered by the U.S. House of Representatives 
> > > > > would
> > > > > increase the company's health-care costs by more than $100 million in
> > > > > the first year alone.
>
> > > > > In a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and 
> > > > > House
> > > > > Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio, Caterpillar urged lawmakers to
> > > > > vote against the plan "because of the substantial cost burdens it 
> > > > > would
> > > > > place on our shareholders, employees and retirees."
>
> > > > > Caterpillar, the world's largest construction machinery manufacturer 
> > > > > by
> > > > > sales, said it's particularly opposed to provisions in the bill that
> > > > > would expand Medicare taxes and mandate insurance coverage. The
> > > > > legislation would require nearly all companies to provide health
> > > > > insurance for their employees or face large fines.
>
> > > > > The Peoria-based company said these provisions would increase its
> > > > > insurance costs by at least 20 percent, or more than $100 million, 
> > > > > just
> > > > > in the first year of the health-care overhaul program.
>
> > > > > "We can ill-afford cost increases that place us at a disadvantage 
> > > > > versus
> > > > > our global competitors," said the letter signed by Gregory Folley, 
> > > > > vice
> > > > > president and chief human resources officer of Caterpillar. "We are
> > > > > disappointed that efforts at reform have not addressed the cost 
> > > > > concerns
> > > > > we've raised throughout the year."
>
> > > > > Business executives have long complained that the options offered for
> > > > > covering 32 million uninsured Americans would result in higher 
> > > > > insurance
> > > > > costs for those employers that already provide coverage. Opponents 
> > > > > have
> > > > > stepped up their attacks in recent days as the House moves closer 
> > > > > toward
> > > > > a vote on the Senate version of the health-care legislation.
>
> > > > > A letter Thursday to President Barack Obama and members of Congress
> > > > > signed by more than 130 economists predicted the legislation would
> > > > > discourage companies from hiring more workers and would cause reduced
> > > > > hours and wages for those already employed.
>
> > > > > Caterpillar noted that the company supports efforts to increase the
> > > > > quality and the value of health care for patients as well as lower 
> > > > > costs
> > > > > for employer-sponsored insurance coverage.
>
> > > > > "Unfortunately, neither the current legislation in the House and 
> > > > > Senate,
> > > > > nor the president's proposal, meets these goals," the letter said.
>
> > > > > *Previous articles on Caterpillar from the Chicago Breaking Business
> > > > > blog
> > > > > <http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=12&tag=C...>
> > > > > and the Tribune Archives
> > > > > <http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/economy-business-finance/manufact...>.*
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