It is now a state crime as well. --- that is was already a federal crime ... it's of little note
except that the feds are being inhibited by Obama and the jews from doing their jobs On May 5, 3:32 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > It is now a state crime as well. > > On May 5, 9:12 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > entering the USA illegally is a federal crime > > > Let The Trail Of Tears II begin!!! > > > On May 4, 4:28 pm, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Immigration, Civil Liberties, and the Drug WarbySheldon Richman, May 4, > > > 2010 > > > Arizona’s horrid law empowering cops to demand that people show their > > > “papers” when suspected of being in the country without government > > > permission holds an important lesson for both so-called progressives and > > > conservatives. It’s a lesson about a seemingly separate issue: drugs. > > > Concern about illegal immigrants along the Mexican border would > > > undoubtedly diminish if the “war on drugs” ended. (It’s not really a war > > > on drugs; it’s a war on manufacturers, merchants, and consumers of > > > certain drugs.) Drug prohibition in Mexico and the United States has not > > > made the drug trade disappear. It merely turned the trade over to violent > > > gangs. That is how prohibition always works. By definition, black markets > > > are illegal, which means people with grievances can’t sue or call the > > > police. They take “justice” into their own hands. The ensuing violence > > > inevitably injures and kills innocent bystanders. If the violence is > > > perpetrated by Mexicans and spills over the border, or if it drives > > > villagers to seek safety in United States, the affected American > > > communities will be tempted to blame foreigners, particularly illegal > > > aliens. > > > Ending prohibition would bring the drug trade into normal commerce and > > > under the control of social mores similar to those that govern alcohol. > > > Just as we don’t have turf wars and other violence surrounding the liquor > > > and tobacco industries, we would not see it in a legal drug industry. > > > That in itself would defuse much of the animosity toward Hispanic > > > immigrants. > > > Moreover, ending the black market would shrink drug profits, which are > > > now used to buy sophisticated weapons for drug gangs. > > > Now let’s tie the drug issue back to progressives and conservatives. > > > Progressives portray themselves as sympathetic to immigrants, legal or > > > otherwise, although there is a group that thinks the competition with > > > American workers is unfair. Progressives also regard themselves as civil > > > libertarians and therefore are not happy with the Arizona authoritarian > > > law. (Aside: If they are upset with that law, why do most progressives > > > give Barack Obama a pass on his Cheneyesque policies regarding enemy > > > combatants, indefinite detention, and assassination?) > > > But if progressives are so concerned about civil liberties, why are they > > > not attacking the war on drugs? Not only does prohibition violate the > > > civil liberties (not to mention property rights) of every legal resident; > > > it also foments hostility to and suspicion of illegals. That hostility in > > > turn leads to policies that erode everyone’s civil liberties. It’s not > > > only immigrants who will have to carry papers in Arizona. Anyone likely > > > to be questioned (read: anyone with brown skin) will have to carry an ID > > > if he wants to ensure he will not be detained. > > > What about conservatives? Years ago they might have been counted on to > > > protest an ID requirement. Now they seem to have no problem with a state > > > requirement that one produce papers on demand. Rush Limbaugh says that > > > Democrats oppose the Arizona law because having to show an ID will make > > > it hard for them to stuff the ballot box with illegal votes. Are we to > > > infer that Limbaugh (who speaks for many conservatives) therefore favors > > > empowering the police to demand an ID on the mere suspicion that someone > > > is in America without government permission? > > > That’s not the only problem for conservatives. They repeatedly raise > > > alarms about the threat to gun owners, but they stubbornly refuse to see > > > the connection between the war on guns and the war on drugs. As noted, > > > the black market spawns well-armed drug gangs. Police have complained > > > that they are outgunned by these gangs. This in turn has fueled the > > > anti-gun movement. Indeed, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that > > > one way to combat the Mexican drug violence is to crack down on the flow > > > of guns from the United States into Mexico. We know what such a policy > > > would mean. > > > Progressives and conservatives, wake up! The war on drugs undermines > > > civil liberties and the rights of peaceful gun owners, not to mention the > > > freedom of Hispanics to move freely. If you mean it when you say you care > > > about freedom, you will demand a halt to drug prohibition. Your own > > > proclaimed values are at stake.http://www.fff.org/comment/com1005b.asp > > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > * It's active and moderated. 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