Never saw any contempt for the men by bush ------- it could be as easily manufactured out of his disgraceful actions as yours towards Obama. He doubted whether our troops were actually "fighting back."
On Jun 25, 2:07 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Never saw any contempt for the men by bush nor did we see any contempt > for Bush by the men. But that is evading the question of the contempt > for the men by this president. He is doing nothing to get us out of > Bush's wars responsibly and safely. In fact, he has amped up the wars > by invading our ally without permission with his drones and all the > while he occupies an office that the men are supposed to respect. They > may respect the office but how can you expect the men to respect the man > who will not respect them. Makes no sense but then most of your ad > hominens make so sense nor have anything to do with the subject. BTW > how is the closing of Gitmo and the leaving Iraq going. That was > supposed to happen within a year and it has gone on for almost 2 so far > with no end in sight. Only thing he has talked about is moving the > Gitmo people to other facilities here where the people do not want them > and that was dropped also. The man is flailing around and has not a > clue and here you are trying to tell us that he is using his super duper > powers to get us out of the wars responsibly and safely. He has not > done anything responsibly in his whole career and you think he is doing > this responsibly? That is really funny! > > > > euwe wrote: > > Contempt for Bush isn't ok, though, right? Even though he was an > > ignoramus who got men killed because of his ignorance, arrogance and > > incompetence. But Obama, because he's trying to get us out of Bush's > > wars responsibly and safely, gets no respect, even for the office he > > occupies, and what it represents. > > > On Jun 25, 1:49 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> And that pertains to the story the reporter wrote in what way? In the > >> first place McChrystal had not mocked Obama and the civilian > >> leadeership. That was all in the mind of the reporter. What this does > >> is leave it up to the reporters to have the final say on what they can > >> say and do to the senior military. Ethics and truth telling have > >> nothing to do with it. A reporter can just make shit up and bring down > >> the senior military. The other point is that McChrystal's contempt and > >> his remarks were not McChrystal's contempt and McChrystal's remarks so > >> the whole basis for what Gates said is false to begin with. > > >> The contempt for this particular CIC by the uniformed leadership would > >> be totally understandable since we already know his contempt for them. > >> This is like when Bubba was in office and so many top military retired > >> and we already know Bubba's contempt for the military. Hillary's > >> too. She tried to make the senior military assigned to the WH come to > >> work in civilian clothes because she did not want to see uniforms around > >> the joint. And she said this to the top AF general assigned to the > >> WH. Now we have a current administration where the commanding general > >> in a war has to wait 4 months to go over the policies and even then the > >> president grants him a 20 minute slot and then goes on to Paris to have > >> a "Date Night" with FLOTUS. That rather tells you how the president > >> regards the military and the men and women fighting for the country. I > >> would have contempt for him under the circumstances as well. > > >> euwe wrote: > > >>> Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, left for > >>> Afghanistan yesterday to ease the concerns of field commanders over > >>> Obama's sacking of McChrystal and Petraeus' succession. > > >>> Earlier, Mullen joined Secretary of Defense Robert Gates at the > >>> Pentagon in agreeing that McChrystal had to go after mocking Obama and > >>> the civilian leadership in a stunning Rolling Stone magazine article. > > >>> "Honestly, when I first read it, I was nearly sick," Mullen said of > >>> the magazine piece. "I couldn't believe it." > > >>> Gates said that McChrystal's remarks made his position "untenable." > >>> But he stressed that McChrystal's contempt for the chain of command > >>> was not typical of the top uniformed leadership. > > >>> "This is an anomaly, not a systemic problem," Gates said. > > >>> Read more: > >>>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/06/25/2010-06-25_uh_abo... > > >>> On Jun 25, 4:26 am, euwe <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I guess the guy never heard of chain of command, and the phrase > >>>> "officer and a gentleman." > > >>>> On Jun 24, 12:15 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/24/2010-06-24_mcchry... > > >>>>> Just what did the reporter think would happen when a touchy egomaniac > >>>>> like Bambi read what the reporter wrote. Guess he didn't think at all. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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