I don't defend MSNBC.... I attack Nat Hentoff and the Jewish World Review.... I gave a reply to this "metaphorical or rhetorical defense" of yours above in my reply to "Annointed One".....Now, would you be willing to discuss the actual issue involved here?... instead of discussing the merits of a metaphorical/rhetorical comparison that has not much at all to do with the merits of the topic... what was the topic.... do you remember?.....Oh yeah, something about the location or proposed building site of a mosque.......... nominal9
On Aug 31, 6:27 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > So you think it is just fine and dandy to call Nat Hentoff biased but > don't you dare call my buddies biased. They don't have to play by the > same rules? I don't think so. What I find fascinating is to read how > MSNBC claims the Tea Party is racially biased and if you look at their > news staff it is about as white as you can get - last I saw they had > zero other than white people on theri main news staff but they were very > quick to call the Tea Party racially biased. Seems to me that if you > are going to point fingers you should remember that one finger is point > at the other guy and 4 are pointing back at you. > > On 08/31/2010 12:29 PM, nominal9 wrote: > > > > > What's that... your ......"Mommy.... Jimmy can do it so why can't > > I?".... defense? > > nominal9 > > > On Aug 30, 3:41 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> As opposed to The Nation or MSNBC or the NYT or WaPo? Definitely not > >> more biased than these other medias are. They wrote the book on bias > >> along with CBS. > > >> On 08/30/2010 03:20 PM, nominal9 wrote: > > >>> Every weekday JewishWorldReview.com publishes what many in the media > >>> and > >>> Washington consider "must-reading". Sign up for the daily JWR update. > >>> It's free. Just click here. > > >>> Nat Hentoff is a nationally renowned authority on the First Amendment > >>> and the Bill of Rights and author of several books, including his > >>> current work, "The War on the Bill of Rights and the Gathering > >>> Resistance". Comment by clicking here. / article > > >>> Sad to say... as a "nationally renowned authority on the First > >>> Amendment"... Nat Hentoff has become more than a dissappointment in > >>> his support of "freedom of speech" in his older age... he has become > >>> nearly the contrary to an advocate for it... Nat has become a turncoat > >>> and a proponent of "censorship" as a needed "exception" to "freedom of > >>> speech" in many cases... especially in cases that criticize aspects of > >>> Zionist Racism in Israel.... > >>> As for the publication, Jewish World Review.... enough said.... don't > >>> you think that there may well be some slight bias or "slant" in their > >>> opinions on this matter? > > >>> On Aug 29, 4:00 am, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Nat Hentoff is well known for being a staunch supporter of the US > >>>> Constitution and especially the first amendment rights. He really tells > >>>> it like it is here. > > >>>> Get 3-in-1 Monitoring and FICO score nowStay in the know about your 3 > >>>> nationwide credit files and FICO score. > > >>>> Home > >>>> In this issue > >>>> August 27, 2010 > >>>> David Hazony: The Mystery of Goodness > >>>> Caroline B. 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Pols clueless on Ground Zero mosque > > >>>> By Nat Hentoff > > >>>> Printer Friendly Version > > >>>> Email this article > >>>> Share and bookmark this article > > >>>>http://www.JewishWorldReview.com|The angry national debate over Imam > >>>> Feisal Abdul Rauf's intention to build a mosque two blocks north of the > >>>> horror of 9/11 at Ground Zero has been further fueled by supporter Nancy > >>>> Pelosi declaring, "I join those who have called for looking into how > >>>> this opposition to the mosque is being funded." > > >>>> If one of her sleuths knocks on my door, this opponent will readily > >>>> state that I need no outside funding as a reporter who is deeply > >>>> investigating the motivation of Imam Rauf's choice of this site of mass > >>>> murder for the mosque. I will add that, of course, all American Muslims > >>>> have their First Amendment right to exercise their freedom of religion > >>>> in their place of worship. There have been other mosques in New York > >>>> City built without opposition. That freedom is not at stake here. > > >>>> As for Rauf's inflammable site choice, however, one of a growing number > >>>> of construction workers pledging they will not work on this mosque (New > >>>> York Daily News, Aug. 20), Dave Kaiser, a blaster, explains: > > >>>> "I wouldn't work there, especially after I found out about what the imam > >>>> said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11." > > >>>> Imam Rauf said was interviewed on CBS' "60 Minutes" (Sept. 30, 2001) by > >>>> Ed Bradley. (I have the transcript.) Asked how he felt as a Muslim > >>>> "knowing that people of your faith committed this act," Imam Rauf spoke > >>>> about Muslim reaction throughout the world "against the policies of the > >>>> U.S. government, politically, where we espouse principles of democracy > >>>> and human rights and where we ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in > >>>> many of these countries." > > >>>> "Are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved > >>>> what happened?" Bradley asked. > > >>>> "I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened," Rauf > >>>> answered, "but the United States' policies were an accessory to the > >>>> crime that happened. Because (the United States has) been an accessory > >>>> to a lot of -- of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it -- in > >>>> the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the U.S.A." > > >>>> Were the heads of government in Iran, Hamas and Sudan also "made in the > >>>> USA?" > > >>>> FREE SUBSCRIPTION TO INFLUENTIAL NEWSLETTER > > >>>> Every weekday NewsAndOpinion.com publishes what many in the media and > >>>> Washington consider "must-reading". HUNDREDS of columnists and > >>>> cartoonists regularly appear. Sign up for the daily update. It's free. > >>>> Just click here. > > >>>> Imam Rauf has refused to call Hamas a terrorist organization and had no > >>>> comment when, on Aug. 15, Mahmoud al-Zahar, its co-founder, strongly > >>>> supported the Imam's mosque near Ground Zero, saying, Muslims "have to > >>>> build everywhere" (Associated Press, Aug. 16). Sen. Charles Schumer, > >>>> D-N.Y., said the support by Hamas of the Imam's mosque carried no weight > >>>> because "Hamas is a terrorist organization." > > >>>> Why, yes, it is, Imam Rauf, with its suicide bombers and endless rockets > >>>> into Israel. How else can suicide bombers be characterized? > > >>>> This imam -- widely lauded in much of the press as "a moderate" Muslim > >>>> -- is not reticent, however, in his firm commitment to Sharia (Islamic > >>>> law), which regards women as far less than fully human. In the Dec. 9, > >>>> 2007 Arabic newspaper Hadi el-Islam, Rauf insisted: > > >>>> "Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is > >>>> clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single > >>>> form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. > >>>> The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia > >>>> that are required to govern." > > >>>> I would greatly appreciate it if Imam Rauf explained, maybe Pelosi will > >>>> ask him, more fully what he meant in his 2004 book, "What's Right With > >>>> Islam is What's Right With America." In it he declares: "American > >>>> Constitution and system of governance uphold the core principles of > >>>> Islamic law." > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
