*Dick-* ** *You could not be more wrong. * *Gays have been serving since The American Revolution.* ** *Time for them to serve openly, without being discharged. * ** *I am my own master.*
On 9/22/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > As a gay man who served proudly in the highest levels of the Pentagon > during the JFK days - and with the highest security clearance as well - > Tommy could not be more wrong. There were many gays serving then. We just > did not parade around our sexual identity. We did our jobs to the best of > our abiity and when we were off duty did our own thing. No problem at all. > We also did not hit on the other soldiers we served with but then that is > good practice in all business situations. Remember - never get your spread > where you get your bread. > > Y You are putting out lots of misinformation about what the military is > about. You need to get better information other than what your > "progressive" masters are shoveling to you before you open your mouth. > > > On 09/22/2010 01:53 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > *mark** *(Tommy) * says: * > > *McCain is an idiot. Not repelaing Dont ask dont tell is a slap to every > red bloooded american who wants to serve his/her country but cant becuase > they are gay. How stupid arew you Mccain. thank god you werent elected > president.* > > ============ > > So, under this presumption, no Gay men (or women) have ever served in the > United States military. Ya might want to tell that to the proud Gay men > and women who have served their Nation, since 1776. > > No Tom, the United States military will never be a place for you to hold > parades, fashion shows, and sport your assless chaps and boas around, in > order to sell your agenda. Just won't work there..... > > > > > >> >> >> *Thanks, John McCain -- Military Now 100 Percent Straight* >> By Patrick >> Connors<http://blogs.sfweekly.com/email.php?to=1817&author_name=Patrick%2BConnors&story_url=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.sfweekly.com%252Fthesnitch%252F2010%252F09%252Fdadt_repeal_fail_military_now.php&story_title=Thanks%252C%2BJohn%2BMcCain%2B--%2BMilitary%2BNow%2B100%2BPercent%2BStraight&blog_name=The%2BSnitch>, >> Wed., Sep. 22 2010 @ 7:55AM >> >> [image: John McCain. >> grimacejpg.jpg]<http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/John%20McCain.%20grimacejpg.jpg> >> What's >> Sen. McCain thinking? Don't ask. The Senate was unable to stop Sen. John >> McCain's filibuster of the military authorization bill on Tuesday, which >> means that -- among other >> things<http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/republicans_vote_against_takin.php>-- >> the greatest democracy in the world is unwilling to stop the military >> from discharging LGBT personnel. >> >> Not that the so-called repeal language included in the bill would have >> repealed the policy anyway. This military spending >> bill<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.5136:> allows >> Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) to be repealed after Dec. 1, 2010 following a >> review and certification of the plan to cease enforcement by three bigwigs >> -- and then wait another 60 days -- (and stand on your left foot and extend >> your right arm) and then the policy will no longer be enforced. >> >> Even a lousy repeal failed. Who gets the credit for the mess? >> >> We know that there are gay people serving in the armed forces. We know >> that, as of 2009, more than 13,000 LGBTs have been discharged. We know that >> women >> and racial >> minorities<http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/17/Gender_Race_Still_Influence_DADT_Discharges/>are >> targeted more than white men under the policy. >> >> We know from a CNN poll in May 2010 that 78 percent of Americans surveyed >> favored >> repeal<http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99689-poll-78-percent-favor-repealing-dont-ask-dont-tell>of >> the policy. And yet we also know that military >> personnel don't want the gays to be >> open<http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/01/polls-show-service-members-oppose-gays-in-military-as-gates-and-mullen-prepare-to-testify-on-dont-ask-dont-tell/>and >> they are scared that the bill could be repealed -- or not enforced. >> >> There are two sides to the anti-gay military coin: One side wants gays to >> serve in the closet and the other side wants them rooted out and discharged. >> >> >> This dynamic leaves America's political leaders' panties in a bunch. >> >> [image: gay-army.jpg]<http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/gay-army.jpg> >> President Barack Obama said in his January 2010 State of the Union >> address <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1z3_TlYfbQ> that he would repeal >> the policy. But he didn't do much to help to end McCain's >> filibuster<http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/09/21/doubts-persist-as-todays-dont-ask-cloture-vote-approaches/>-- >> no phone calls, no arm-twisting -- and yet he did find time to call the WNBA >> champions to congratulate >> them.<http://gay.americablog.com/2010/09/president-didnt-call-wavering-senators.html> >> >> John McCain did his part too. Not only did he arrange this filibuster, he >> also stammered and freaked out and wet himself during a press conference >> following the Senate vote<http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/09/11432/>on >> Tuesday where he repeated incessantly that the military is NOT seeking >> out gay personnel to be discharged. That is not the policy. That is not the >> policy! Get off my lawn! >> >> So, what are we to believe then, Senator McCain? Should we then assume >> that 13,000 people over the course of 17 years accidentally revealed their >> sexual identity? Is that how all those people were discharged? >> >> They either volunteered the info or thousands and thousands of people just >> kept having "oopsie" moments during the Iraq occupation and shouted out "I >> suck cock!" as Saddam Hussein was chased out of his rabbit hole, right? Not >> likely. >> >> Obama is clearly of very little worth to the LGBT population. He can't >> manage to speak the words that Lady >> Gaga<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/lady-gaga-equality-prime-rib-america-11685268?&clipId=11685268&cid=embedded>has >> the courage to say -- that the bigots should be discharged, not the gays >> with the clean record. Rachel Maddow knew to speak with Major Mike >> Almy<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6hgFYB1aM>who was discharged during >> the Iraq war after the military went through his >> personal e-mail and discovered he is gay. Why wouldn't the >> Commander-in-Chief want to stand by his wronged soldier instead of allowing >> a discriminatory policy to stand? >> >> The policy could be repealed after the election in November during a lame >> duck session but don't hold your breath. Frankly, I don't know what keeps an >> LGBT soldier serving in silence. Sure, there are benefits and the investment >> of time and energy to a military career would make it difficult to walk >> away. And there is that whole duty thing that I don't understand either. >> >> If we really want to see the policy end, all the gays in the military need >> to start opening up the door of the closet -- just as McCain wants us to >> believe they already are doing anyway -- and out themselves to someone in >> command. Fuck 'em. Make the military conduct an investigation, spend money >> and do what they think is necessary to maintain good morale. >> >> Make John McCain an honest man. Out yourselves. Nothing else is working. >> It's up to you. >> >> >> More: >> >> http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/dadt_repeal_fail_military_now.php >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. 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