If it is good enough to train our Navy Seals why should I complain about
using it on terrorists. Would you favor not waterboarding and then
getting hit with a terroristic attack that you could have prevented?
Just how far are you willing to go to save the country? and where do you
draw the line and why. Why do you compare military trials to medieval
trials. Are you saying that the military trials our military are tried
under are the equivalent of The Inquisition? Sure sounds like it. Do
you favor giving terrorists from foreign nations the same rights you are
denying out troops at trial? Where do you find the basis for offering
those rights to foreign nationals on trial for terrorist acts?
And back to waterboarding, do you believe San Fran Nan on not knowing
about it after attending conferences where it was discussed and she was
a participant? In fact do you believe this administration and this
Congress on waterboarding in the first place.
Back again to waterboarding, where did I even mention such a thing.
What I was talking about was that the prisoners in Gitmo should have
been tried by the military tribunals long ago and would have been had
people like you butted out and let them get on with it. After all the
ones that have been carried out were given a fair trial with good
representation. It was only that the civilian lawyers were pissed
because they lost out on getting the cases that this whole brouhaha came
about in the first place.
And back to the terrorist trials again. What is your basis for the
trials of the Sheik who headed the first attempt to blow up the WTC and
had much to do with the second. Do you feel that he has been
maltreated? How about the treatment he dished out and caused to be
dished out to those who jumped or were blown up at the WTC. Do they
deserve any say in this case? Apparently you don't think they matter at
all. As someone who was lucky to be going to work late that day as
opposed to having been at that site about that time on most days I want
them to have the roughest trial possible. That could have been me
there on that day being blown up or burned up if I had not had to stop
by to buy some hearing aid batteries and thus being late for work.
On 10/06/2010 04:18 PM, nominal9 wrote:
dick.... I ask "pointedly" and sarcastically.... Do you recommend that
we return to the medieval; practice of throwing a bound prisoner into
deep water and waiting to see if he or she floats, as a means to
determine guilt or innocence?.... oh yeah, apparently, if you are
among those "conservatives" who favor waterboarding.... you just
might....
nominal9
On Oct 6, 11:11 am, dick<[email protected]> wrote:
Looks like another judge who is making the civilian trials of terrorists
more difficult. No wonder the military wants to do its own trials.
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Subject: News Alert: Judge Bars Major Witness From Civilian Terrorism
Trial
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:17:07 -0400
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Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wed, October 06, 2010 -- 10:15 AM ET
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Judge Bars Major Witness From Civilian Terrorism Trial
Minutes before a major terrorism trial was about to begin, a
federal judge barred prosecutors in Manhattan on Wednesday
from using a key witness.
The government had acknowledged it learned about the witness
from the defendant, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, while he was
being interrogated while being held in a secret overseas jail
run by the C.I.A.
The ruling by Judge Lewis A. Kaplan would be a setback for
the Obama administration's goal of trying former detainees in
civilian courts because it would limit the kinds of evidence
prosecutors can introduce. It was not immediately clear if
prosecutors would appeal the ruling.
The defendant, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, was scheduled to begin
trial on Wednesday in Federal District Court on charges he
conspired in the 1998 bombings of the American Embassies in
Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. The attacks,
orchestrated by Al Qaeda, killed 224 people.
Read More:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/nyregion/07ghailani.html?hp&emc=na
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