*Wrong again.* ** *of·fi·cious/əˈfiSHəs/Adjective * *1. Assertive of authority in an annoyingly domineering way, esp. with regard to petty or trivial matters.* *2. Intrusively enthusiastic in offering help or advice; interfering.*
On 10/9/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Officious! How kind of you to notice. > > *OFFICIOUS,* a. [L. officiosus.] > > 1. Kind; obliging; doing kind offices. > > 2. Excessively forward in kindness; importunately interposing services. > > Oh! Wait! How is it you reconcile "kindness" and "critical bully" in the > same sentence? Let's see! Oh, yeah! That's right! I almost forgot. You see > everyone who is not gay (and even some who are, judging by your retorts with > other openly gay members of this group who don't see things your way) as a > bully. > > But it's nice to know you consider me a kind bully. :>) > > > On 10/9/2010 11:33 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > *1) False* > ** > *2) False* > ** > *Yes.* > *My opinion is that you are an officious, critical bully.* > > > On 10/9/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tommy, >> >> I have noticed that your posts to this group come in two varieties: >> >> 1) You cut and paste an article or opinion piece written by someone else; >> >> 2) You call people names (i.e. hate speech). >> >> Do you ever have an opinion of your own? >> >> On 10/9/2010 10:49 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> >> Jonathan Ashley Jonathan Ashley Jonathan Ashley >> >> False, False, and False. >> >> Officious and dismissive too. >> >> >> >> >> On 10/9/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tommy! Tommy! Tommy! >>> >>> You use the same "cut and paste" statements over and over in an effort to >>> convince others (most likely yourself) that Democrats (i.e. you) are not >>> socialists. One has to wonder who the real "sheep" are. >>> >>> On 10/9/2010 9:57 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>> >>> *I am not a Marxist.* >>> ** >>> *Your judgemental and dismissive attitude is quite bad. * >>> ** >>> *Sexuality and having sex are two different things.* >>> ** >>> *Democrats are not Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.* >>> ** >>> *Republicans are misguided corporate 'Sheeple".* >>> >>> >>> On 10/9/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh!! Now I am a homophobe......Typical hate coming from a militant >>>> Marxist with a pro-Gay agenda. When you cannot address the facts or >>>> truth, >>>> resort to the name calling and the hate. Class warfare, smear, and of >>>> course, the "homophobe" label. >>>> >>>> Typical. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> *You have a dirty mind, as many homophobes do.* >>>>> ** >>>>> *Being gay and having sex are two separate things.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/9/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> *"END HOMO/ TRANSPHOBIC APARTHEID IN AMERICA.”* >>>>>> >>>>>> WTF???? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Tom!! >>>>>> >>>>>> You (and obviously these three hundred confused individuals who chose >>>>>> to stage this "Die-In") need to stop thinking about your sexual needs and >>>>>> gratifications constantly! Maybe you need to get a hobby, or do >>>>>> something >>>>>> that is separate, distinct and apart from your focus on sex. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact that the term, "Gay" defines you in total, should be >>>>>> troubling in and of itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there no other causes, concerns, or issues that you either support >>>>>> or that trouble you, other than what revolves around who you choose to >>>>>> hop >>>>>> in the sack with?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Geesh......I feel like I need to go and take a shower!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LGBT Flash Mob of Hundreds at Grand Central >>>>>>> October 8 die-in dramatizes violence, bullying facing queer >>>>>>> community, need for full civil rights protections >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Published: Friday, October 8, 2010 9:55 PM CDT >>>>>>> BY PAUL SCHINDLER >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Print<http://www.chelseanow.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc4cafcde4ba72e389718721.prt> >>>>>>> E-mail<http://www.chelseanow.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc4cafcde4ba72e389718721.eml> >>>>>>> Comment<http://www.chelseanow.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc4cafcde4ba72e389718721.txt#top>(No >>>>>>> comments posted.) 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As >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> men called out each victim’s name, those on the floor shouted back the >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As planned, after about three or four minutes on the floor, >>>>>>> participants got back on their feet, and for several more minutes >>>>>>> Fernandez, >>>>>>> Lovendusky, and other organizers led the crowd in shouts of “Civil >>>>>>> Rights >>>>>>> Now.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bounville and Iana Di Borna, another organizer of the protest, were >>>>>>> arrested by Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) police and >>>>>>> charged >>>>>>> with misdemeanor obstruction of pedestrian traffic. The two were given >>>>>>> desk >>>>>>> appearance tickets and quickly released. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Activist Ann Northrop said she witnessed a third demonstrator, who >>>>>>> she knew only by the name Jeff, being taken away by police who said he >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> “inciting” the crowd. The MTA police said it arrested only two people, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the NYPD had no record of any arrest made by its officers. Detective Tim >>>>>>> Duffy, the NYPD’s liaison officer to the LGBT community, said he >>>>>>> witnessed >>>>>>> MTA police escorting a man, without handcuffs, away from the crowd, and >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> he may have been the same individual Northrop saw. Duffy said the lack >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> handcuffs suggested he may not have been arrested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>> *]<http://adsys.townnews.com/c78558000/creative/chelseanow.com/gay_city_news+instory/201220-1251816687.gif?r=http://www.chelseapiers.com/sc/> >>>>>>> Fernandez said that MTA police officials had agreed to guidelines by >>>>>>> which the demonstrators would be able to unfurl their banner from one >>>>>>> of two >>>>>>> balconies with steps leading down to the concourse. At 6 p.m. Friday >>>>>>> evening, however, NYPD officers were stationed there, and organizers >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> not allowed to use that space. Fernandez also said that the police >>>>>>> agreed >>>>>>> the action could take place without arrests as long as the demonstrators >>>>>>> limited the time they laid on the floor, as they did. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The action came amidst a nationwide dialogue about a spate of recent >>>>>>> suicides by young gay men — some as young as 13 — who experienced >>>>>>> harassment >>>>>>> and violence, generally at the hands of school classmates. Though >>>>>>> experts >>>>>>> say that suicides and suicide attempts by queer youth are a persistent >>>>>>> problem, news that 18-year-old Tyler Clementi, a Rutgers University >>>>>>> freshman, jumped off the George Washington Bridge on September 22, days >>>>>>> after his roommate and a third student allegedly webcast an intimate >>>>>>> dorm >>>>>>> room encounter he had with another man, galvanized media attention on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> During the past week in Manhattan, at least four men were attacked in >>>>>>> two separate anti-gay >>>>>>> incidents<http://www.gaycitynews.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc4cae272568b5b913662489.txt>— >>>>>>> one at the iconic Stonewall Bar on Christopher Street in the West >>>>>>> Village, >>>>>>> and the other on Ninth Avenue in Chelsea. Ben Carver, a 34-year-old >>>>>>> resident >>>>>>> of Washington, DC, was called a “faggot” in a bathroom at the Stonewall >>>>>>> before being pummeled by two attackers. In Chelsea, a group of men were >>>>>>> told, “Go home faggots; this is our neighborhood,” before being >>>>>>> attacked by >>>>>>> a larger group who put two of them in the hospital. Two men arrested in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Stonewall attack and one in the Chelsea incident have been charged with >>>>>>> hate >>>>>>> crime assaults. Other suspects are sought in connection with the Chelsea >>>>>>> attack. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just hours before the Grand Central action, the NYPD announced the >>>>>>> arrests of seven young men in the Bronx , members of the Latin King >>>>>>> Goonies >>>>>>> gang, who allegedly held three men captive in an empty apartment, forced >>>>>>> them to confess to homosexual behavior, and then tortured them, cutting >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> of them with a box cutter, and sodomizing two of them, one with a >>>>>>> plunger, >>>>>>> the other with a small baseball bat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition to the action’s focus on anti-LGBT violence and bullying, >>>>>>> it also called attention to the organizers’ push for federal >>>>>>> legislation to >>>>>>> incorporate anti-discrimination protections based on sexual orientation >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> gender identity and expression into the 1964 Civil Rights Act. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bounville, Di Borna, Fernandez, and Lovendusky are involved with Queer >>>>>>> SOS! <http://www.queersos.com/>and the American Equality Bill (AEB) >>>>>>> Project <http://www.aebnow.com/>. For 12 days leading up to the >>>>>>> Grand Central action, Queer SOS! and the AEB Project have held vigils >>>>>>> outside the Manhattan election campaign office of Senator Kirsten >>>>>>> Gillibrand, demanding that she introduce legislation to amend the 1964 >>>>>>> Act. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the conclusion of the Grand Central action, Fernandez, having >>>>>>> witnessed two of his fellow activists taken away by police, said of the >>>>>>> MTA’s conduct, “They have set a horrible precedent today. We will never >>>>>>> negotiate with them again.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to Fernandez, he and fellow activists had extensive >>>>>>> discussions with top MTA police officials, including Chief Michael Coan >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> an attorney Coan tasked to talk to them. When the activists arrived at >>>>>>> Grand >>>>>>> Central, Fernandez said, it was clear that police intended to breach the >>>>>>> agreement that had been reached. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Civil rights attorney Yetta Kurland, who was among a group of legal >>>>>>> observers, said that the MTA police had barricades and plastic handcuffs >>>>>>> assembled outside the doors of its offices downstairs from the >>>>>>> concourse, an >>>>>>> indication to her that officials had “prior intent” to make arrests. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kurland also noted that flash mobs of all varieties have become >>>>>>> commonplace in New York, and that there are “never, never, ever any >>>>>>> arrests.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “What is most alarming,” she said, “is that the distinguishing factor >>>>>>> here is that the demonstration has political content, which you would >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> would afford it greater free speech protection.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The MTA police press office did not respond to a request for comment >>>>>>> and Coan did not respond to a Facebook message sent to him. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LGBT activist in the Bronx are planning a protest at *19 Osbourne >>>>>>> Place, near 179th Street,* where the gang assaults took place, on >>>>>>> *Saturday, >>>>>>> October 9 at 11 a.m.* Demonstrators plan to meet at the *Burnside >>>>>>> Avenue station on the 4 line at 10:30 t*o walk to the site. Updates >>>>>>> on the event will be posted to >>>>>>> facebook.com/zonarosamagazine<http://www.facebook.com/zonarosamagazine> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On *Saturday evening, October 9*, the activist group Queer Rising is >>>>>>> leading a march from *Ninth Avenue and 25th Street in Chelsea, *where >>>>>>> one of the weekend attacks took place, to the Stonewall bar. >>>>>>> Demonstrators >>>>>>> will leave the Chelsea intersection at about *8:30 p.m*. Complete >>>>>>> information is at >>>>>>> facebook.com/zonarosamagazine#!/event.php?eid=123680477686130<http://www.facebook.com/zonarosamagazine#%21/event.php?eid=123680477686130> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.chelseanow.com/articles/2010/10/08/gay_city_news/news/doc4cafcde4ba72e389718721.txt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Tommy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Tommy >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Visit our other community at >>>>>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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What >> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior public >> relations." >> - Marc Stevens >> >> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that >> cannot be." >> - Thomas Jefferson* >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. 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No contracts. > http://www.getpeek.com/lavabit.html > > > -- > *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal > Government* > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html > > *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed > are weak. > > "The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really happening. > What > separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior public > relations." > - Marc Stevens > > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that > cannot be." > - Thomas Jefferson* > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. 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