MJ, I stand corrected. It is indeed a privilege; one granted by/under each different States Requirements regarding residency and citizenship.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:26 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > Uhm ... privilege. Only individuals have rights. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > * "Rights are not gifts from one man to another, nor from one class to > another; for who is he who could be the first giver, or by what principle, > or on what authority could he possess the right of giving?" -- Thomas Paine, > author of "Common Sense." > > > > * > At 05:59 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote: > > voting is a state right. The rights of the feds are specifically pointed > out in the constitution.... please show me where this one is. > > No politician has to register with the Federal government to run for > office. All that run for Federal office must register in his own STATE. > Those that run for President are only eligible to run in those states they > register in... (50). It is and was a STATE function. > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! < > [email protected] > wrote: > you think federal election laws are unconstitutional ? > > On Oct 16, 4:09 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > We have Federal Election Laws (which are unconstitutional) so that > > the Republicans and Democrats can retain their positions. > > > > Block "Citizens" from voting? > > > > Regard$, > > --MJ > > > > "Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one > > party only no matter how big its membership may be is no freedom at > > all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently." > > --Rosa Luxemburg > > > > At 03:58 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >we have federal election laws so that the states can not block > > >citizens from voting > > > > >On Oct 16, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I had NO idea that there exists (or ever did) a federal election. > They > > > > are entirely the purview of the individual states. If and when there > > > > is a federal election then the feds have a right to make or enforce > > > > election law. > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:47 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You have several things working against you. > > > > > Not only does Amendment I apply (Congress shall make no law ... > > > free speech), > > > > > there is no Power provided the Congress within the Constitution > > > to 'regulate' or > > > > > 'restrict' or otherwise 'campaigns'. > > > > > Money is most certainly speech -- whether it consists of > > > 'hiring' someone to > > > > > best spread your message OR the measure for the success of a > business or > > > > > enterprise. > > > > > Regard$, > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW mailing > > > list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First Amendment > > > decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and make > > > political films without government regulation is, it seems, the end > > > of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. Federal > > > Election CommissionAt 12:41 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:This is a > > > close call.... mike.....Freedom of Speech is Freedom of > > > > > Speech..... but, like I said elsewhere... political donations... > > > > > money... is not speech (in my opinion). I would think that, as long > as > > > > > the "person" doing the speech is an "individual" then the money end > > > > > (advertising access costs) associated with his/her political speech > > > > > need not be disclosed... but when the "individual" becomes a > > > > > "political advocacy group" of any sort, then where the money comes > > > > > from should be disclosed...But, of course, there's a Criminally > > > > > Crooked Supreme Court Majority to contend > > > with.....currently.http://van-ezproxy.vancouver.wsu.edu/pag/index.html > > > > > U.S. Chamber of Commercehttp://www.uschamber.org > > > > > E-Mail: [email protected] > > > > > 1615 H St. NW > > > > > Washington, DC 20062-2000 > > > > > Phone: 202-659-6000, 800-638-6582 > > > > > Fax: 202-463-3190 "We protect and represent you so your business > can > > > > > grow and prosper in a free market economy." > > > > > (http://www.uschamber.org) > > > > > Then there's Karl > > > Rove...http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2010/10/suing-one-of-... > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:41 am, "mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 !" > > > > > <[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > the court has opened the door for other governments to chose our > > > > > > leaders . > > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:37 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That s what Republican campaign fund-raising groups are doing > by > > > > > > > concealing their donors from the public. > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > > > > > > Individuals, of course, have a right to privacy. > > > > > > > BOTH Republicans AND Democrats fo not trust Americans, but > > > > > > > it is with their lives (of course they are Peddling Pull to > maintain > > > > > > > their Power). > > > > > > > Regard$, > > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW > > > mailing list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First > > > Amendment decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and > > > make political films without government regulation is, it seems, > > > the end of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. > > > Federal Election Commission- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp:// www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > >-- > > >Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > >For options & help seehttp:// groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > >* Visit our other community athttp:// www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > >* It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > >* Read the latest breaking news, and more.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > > -- > Mark M. Kahle H. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Mark M. Kahle H. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
