No, not really, and I acknowledge that my post was a bit off of what you and Greg were discussing, but I was attempting to be humorous, while at the same time, trying to encourage folks like you and other Crackpots, Moonbats and "Anarcho-Capitalists" to stay away from the voting booth, until such time as you read, study, and can make an informed decision.
You STILL do not get it. How unfortunate.
Leave the Justin Raimondo's, Chaz Pershings, and "Moonbats Against The War" web sites alone. They are no different than the DailyKos, or on the other side, Alex Jones. All are misinformation sites.
<shakes head>
- Philosophy 103: Introduction to Logic
- Argumentum Ad Hominem
- Abstract
: The argument concerning the attack of a person's character or circumstances is characterized and shown to be sometimes persuasive but normally fallacious.- Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the
fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who
is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the
truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the
argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.
- The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem
argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from
consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances
are used to influence opinion.
- The fallacy draws its appeal from the technique of "getting personal." The assumption is that what the locutor is saying is entirely or partially dictated by his character or special circumstances and so should be disregarded.
- The "tu quoque" or charging the locutor with "being just like the person" the locutor speaking about, is a narrower variety of this fallacy. In other words, rather than trying to disprove a remark about someone's character or circumstances, one accuses the locutor of having the same character or circumstances.
- In cross examination or in debate, the point is often expressed as
"My point might be bad, but yours is worse."
- If the subject includes an assessment of behavior, the point can be put "So I do x [some specific action], but you do too."
- If the subject includes an assessment of behavior, the point can be put "So I do x [some specific action], but you do too."
- Since the circumstantial variety of the ad hominem can be regarded as a special case of the abusive, the distinction between the abusive and the circumstantial is often ignored.
- Informal Structure of ad Hominem
- Person L says argument A.
- Person L's circumstance or character is not satisfactory.
- Argument A is not a good argument.
- Examples of the ad hominem:
- A prosecutor asks the judge to not admit the testimony of a burglar because burglars are not trustworthy.
- Francis Bacon's philosophy should be dismissed since Bacon was
removed from his chancellorship for dishonesty.
- Prof. Smith says to Prof. White, "You are much too hard on your
students," and Prof. White replies, "But certainly you are not
the one to say so. Just last week I heard several of your students
complaining."
- I can't see that we should listen to Governor Smith's proposal to
increase the sales tax on automobiles. He has spent the last twenty years
in state government and is hardly an unbiased source.
- Uses of ad hominem considerations:
- When examining literary or philosophical works, looking at the
author's character or circumstancescan sometimes provide insight into
that person's ideas. In other words, ad hominem considerations can
show motives and can sometimes provide explanation. However, these
considerations do not demonstrate the truth or falsity of the ideas.
- The character of a person is often relevant in consideration of the sincerity of views being offered and so is often relevant to pragmatic decision-making.
- The character of a person is often relevant in consideration of the sincerity of views being offered and so is often relevant to pragmatic decision-making.
- Self-reference and ad hominem:
- If a philosopher presents a "naturalistic view of
knowledge," arguing that all knowledge is a function of the
adjustment of an organism to its environment and at the same time pleads
that his own knowledge is an exception to this generalization, then the
ad hominem fallacy would occur.
- If William James were to claim that all philosophers were either tender-minded or tough-minded except for him with respect to his own variety of pragmatism, then an ad hominem appeal should not be ruled inadmissible against James..
- The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem
argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from
consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances
are used to influence opinion.
- Argumentum Ad Hominem
Regard$,
--MJ
Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing. -- Dwight Eisenhower --
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