Pundit vs. Newsman....A distinction without a difference when it comes
to FOX.....

http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/keiths-got-company-hannity-scarborough-made-political-donations-too-22312

did you notice the "link" about Mud-Duck, above? .... Legal charge,
there... not ethical, ...

Besides, I hear that Olbermann is back.....Good for him.....
nominal9


On Nov 8, 10:18 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here's an example maybe Nominal can get:
>
> During the election,  NBC had Chris "I Got A Tingle" Matthews, and Keith "I
> Got Some Shingles" Olbermann covering the elections, and presented these two
> Moonbats as, "Journalists".
>
> FOX News has never, ever tried to portray or sell the likes of Glenn Beck,
> Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, or any of their political commentators such as
> Geraldine Ferraro, Juan Williams, Bill Bechtel, Susan Estridge,  or David
> Shoen as "journalists.   You have never seen these individuals anchoring the
> news or election coverage.  Instead, FOX has Shepard Smith, Britt
> Hume, Brett Baier, and Jim Angle as their news journalists who covered
> the elections.
>
> A very big distinction.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote:
> > According to Media Bistro, Olbermann will be back on the air Tuesday.
> > Nominal will never get the difference between commentators on Fox News and
> > those anchoring the network's (PMSNBC) election coverage like Olbermann.
> >  He
> > is thick as a plank Dick.
>
> > CW
>
> > On Nov 7, 3:16 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Part of the difference is that Fox does not tell its employees that they
> > > cannot donate on their own. They do say that you cannot donate and then
> > > push the candidate in your broadcasting. MSNBC and NBC itself
> > > specifically have rules and regs that you cannot donate to candidates
> > > period. So your trying to equate Fox and MSNBC on this one is apples
> > > and oranges.
>
> > > On 11/07/2010 03:01 PM, nominal9 wrote:
>
> > > > but I must ask at this time for you to provide a list of
> > > > (with links) ethics violations you perceive Fox news to be guilty of. ?
> > > > CW
>
> > > > Sarah Palin.... works for FOX... as does... Glenn Beck... both are
> > > > "instrumental" elements... almost co-founders... of the Tea Party
> > > > movement....also, Sean Hannity has had a hand in more than a few
> > > > "political rallies or such activities, while being an employee of
> > > > Fox...I haven't referenced (or tried to) what sorts of political
> > > > contributions these "folks " at Fox made...but I am "certain" that
> > > > they were substantial.... I seem to recall that even K. Rupert Mud-
> > > > Duck... made a sizeable donation to the Republicans a while back...
> > > >http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/15/news-corp-republican/
>
> > > > So I'll keep talking... even if you do mind.....HAR...
>
> > > > nominal9
>
> > > > On Nov 5, 3:12 pm, Cold Water<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> First David Shuster and *now* Keith Olbermann??
>
> > > >> Good thing Olbermann isn't a journalist. That should help him in any
> > > >> upcoming legal battles but I imagine the ethics clause in his contract
> > > >> has
> > > >> this sort of thing covered. An educated guess. :-))
>
> > > >> There was a time when the very bright people in this group would
> > > >> challenge
> > > >> every ridiculous statement you and Tommy and others make. I haven't
> > had
> > > >> much time to play in the baby pool lately (been busy helping to get a
> > > >> new
> > > >> governor elected) but I must ask at this time for you to provide a
> > list
> > > >> of
> > > >> (with links) ethics violations you perceive Fox news to be guilty of.
> > > >> If
> > > >> you are unable to do this, you need to STFU.
>
> > > >> Olbermann was MSNBC top ratings getter LOL. He does lag behind Nancy
> > > >> Grace
> > > >> on most nights but does beat that awful Parker Spitzer.
>
> > > >> CW
>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "nominal9"<[email protected]>
> > > >> To: "PoliticalForum"<[email protected]>
> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 03:02
> > > >> Subject: Keith Olbermann suspended over political donations
>
> > > >> Wonder what the Policy is over at Fox.......Apples and Oranges.....At
> > > >> Fox they probably couldn't spell ethics... let alone have any...
> > > >> MSNBC is in the gunsights of Comcast for corporate takeover, or some
> > > >> such thing.. I'm thinking this Phil Griffin guy... may be trolling to
> > > >> keep his job.... if and when that may happen.....
> > > >> Besides... isn't the "right" to contribute to the political candidates
> > > >> of your choice.... sort of a sacred cow?.... legally, I mean....
> > > >> nominal9
>
> > > >>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40028929/ns/politics-decision_2010/ns/pol.
> > ..
>
> > > >> Msnbc TV host Keith Olbermann was suspended indefinitely on Friday for
> > > >> making campaign donations to three Democratic congressional
> > > >> candidates, apparently in violation of NBC News ethics policy.
>
> > > >> The announcement came in a one-sentence statement from msnbc TV
> > > >> President Phil Griffin: I became aware of Keith's political
> > > >> contributions late last night. Mindful of NBC News policy and
> > > >> standards, I have suspended him indefinitely without pay.
>
> > > >> The donations were first reported by the Politico website earlier in
> > > >> the day.
>
> > > >> Olbermann acknowledged the donations in a statement to Politico,
> > > >> saying he gave the maximum legal donation of $2,400 to Arizona Reps.
> > > >> Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords and Kentucky Attorney General
> > > >> Jack Conway, who waged an unsuccessful campaign for the U.S. Senate
> > > >> against Tea Party standard-bearer Rand Paul.
>
> > > >> Like most news organizations, NBC News, parent of msnbc TV, prohibits
> > > >> political contributions by its journalists without prior approval of
> > > >> the president. (Msnbc.com, a joint venture of NBC News and Microsoft,
> > > >> also has a policy against its journalists contributing to political
> > > >> campaigns.)
>
> > > >> "Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside
> > > >> activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her
> > > >> standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the
> > > >> appearance of a conflict of interest, it reads. Such activities may
> > > >> include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or
> > > >> groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any
> > > >> such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of,
> > > >> the president of NBC News or his designee."
>
> > > >> Politico noted that the donations to Grijalva and Giffords were made
> > > >> on Oct. 28, the same day that Grijalva appeared on Olbermann s
> > > >> Countdown with Keith Olbermann show. Grijalva won re-election on
> > > >> Tuesday, while Giffords on Friday was clinging to a narrow lead over
> > > >> Republican Jesse Kelly in a race that the Associated Press has not yet
> > > >> called.
>
> > > >> In his statement to Politico, Olbermann said he did not encourage his
> > > >> viewers or other staff members to donate to the candidates.
>
> > > >> I did not privately or publicly encourage anyone else to donate to
> > > >> these campaigns, nor to any others in this election or any previous
> > > >> ones, nor have I previously donated to any political campaign at any
> > > >> level, he was quoted as saying.
>
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