That's what happens when you spend time watching collectivism in action
(i.e. football) instead of taking care of business.<g>
On 11/21/2010 4:54 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
Geesh Jonathan!!
You took my thunder!! (I still gotta whole lotta more to say on this
post to Young Corey)
Good post!
I'll be back!!
KeithInTampa
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jonathan Ashley
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Your declaration that, "the usa has never been a christian
nation," based on a phrase in an article of a treaty establishes
only one fact - that you have not researched the subject matter.
The Treaty of Tripolistates (in part) that, "the Government of the
United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the
Christian religion," which is perfectly consistent with Amendment
I of the Constitution.
Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified
12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right
of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances.
Article XI of the Treaty of Tripoli "even if shortened and cut
abruptly ('the government of the United States is not in any sense
founded on the Christian religion'), is not an untrue statement
since it is referring to the federal government. Recall that while
the Founders themselves openly described America as a Christian
nation, they did include a constitutional prohibition against a
federal establishment; religion was a matter left solely to the
individual States."[1]
"Therefore, if the article is read as a declaration that the
federal government of the United States was not in any sense
founded on the Christian religion, such a statement is not a
repudiation of the fact that America was considered a Christian
nation."[1]
General William Eaton was a major figure in the Barbary Powers
conflict. "Eaton's official correspondence during his service
confirms that the conflict was a Muslim war against a Christian
America."[1]
Additionally, the writings of John Adams, Noah Webster, Daniel
Webster, and numerous others from that time period make it
abundantly clear that the United States was a Christian nation at
that time.
[1] historian David Barton
On 11/21/2010 11:41 AM, Corey wrote:
THIS IS probably written in stone some where in all public schools.
I am gay, atheist and I am offended by the mention of a god in
anything my taxes pay for.
public/commons should either include ALL religions or non.
as it is, the christian community get billions of tax payers dollars
with the 'faith-based initiatives' including traveling to other
countries helping there law makers write laws that make it illegal to
be gay and punishable with death.
the usa has never been a christian nation and it never will be a
muslim nation. it is a melting pot.
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any
sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no
character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of
Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act
of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the
parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever
produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two
countries.”
~ Tripoli of Barbary. Art. 11. – Authored by American diplomat Joel
Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the
Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and
unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it
and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
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On Nov 21, 1:31 pm, Bruce Majors<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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Only 31 words --- Think about it
Isn't life strange?
I never met one Veteran who enlisted to
fight for Socialism
86% will send this on.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ,
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL!
If Muslims can pray on Madison Avenue, why are
Christians banned from praying in public and erecting religious displays on
their holy days?
What happened to our National Day of Prayer? Obama says we can't have that,
yet Muslims are allowed to block off Madison Ave. in N. Y. and pray in the
middle of the street! And, it's a monthly ritual!
Tell me again, whose country is this? Ours or the Muslims?
I was asked to send this on if I agree, or delete if I don't. It is said
that 86% of Americans believe in God.
Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why
there is such a problem in having 'In God! We Trust' on our money and having
'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance.
I believe it's time we stand up for what we believe!
If you agree, pass this on, if not, delete
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