Richard Epstein on Barack Obama, his former Chicago Law
Colleague<http://reason.com/blog/2010/11/22/reasontv-richard-epstein-on-ba>

November 22, 2010

Few legal scholars have blown as many minds and had the tangible impact
that Richard Epstein <http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/epstein> has
managed. His 1985 volume, Takings: Private Property and the Power of Eminent
Domain<http://books.google.com/books?id=uz7nJkFvVn0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Takings:+Private+Property+and+the+Power+of+Eminent+Domain&source=bl&ots=b3DQcu39uo&sig=aKDKSpC4jAoB4cY0L45FU8CKdHo&hl=en&ei=7aTmTKXjNYT6lwelkfnNCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false>
is
a case in point. Epstein made the hugely controversial argument that
regulations and other government actions such as environmental regulations
that substantially limit the use of or decrease the value of property should
be thought of as a form of eminent domain and thus strictly limited by the
Constitution. The immediate result was a firestorm of outrage followed by an
acknowledgment that the guy was onto something.

As Epstein told Reason in a 1995
interview<http://reason.com/archives/1995/04/01/takings-exception>,
"I took some pride in the fact that [Sen.] Joe Biden (D-Del.) held a copy of
Takings up to a hapless Clarence Thomas back in 1991 and said that anyone
who believes what's in this book is certifiably unqualified to sit in on the
Supreme Court. That's a compliment of sorts.... But I took even more pride
in the fact that, during the Breyer hearings [in 199X], there were no such
theatrics, even as the nominee was constantly questioned on whether he
agreed with the Epstein position on deregulation as if that position could
not be held by responsible people."

Born in New York in 1943, Epstein splits faculty appointments at the
University of Chicago and New York University; he's also a senior fellow at
Stanford's Hoover Institution, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, and
a contributor to Reason. In books such as Forbidden Grounds: The Case
Against Employment Discrimination
Laws<http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/book-review-forbidden-grounds-the-case-against-employment-discrimination-laws-by-richard-a-epstein/>
(1992)
to Simple Rules for a Complex
World<http://books.google.com/books?id=b3n_J-gTUnMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Simple+Rules+for+a+Complex+World&source=bl&ots=IM2iejmTyZ&sig=ehR7blsE1amU_jqBi04NBKbGwfw&hl=en&ei=caXmTM_AJYL6lwfX75ylDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false>
(1995),
andSkepticism and Freedom: A Modern Case for Classical
Liberalism<http://books.google.com/books?id=2ENR8xss4JsC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=skepticism+and+Freedom:+A+Modern+Case+for+Classical+Liberalism&source=bl&ots=UwQ2WvfRFY&sig=oZWKG5A261VHC7lWq4PVUuZmH1E&hl=en&ei=kaXmTMyQBoH7lwejzNmBDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false>
(2003),
Epstein pushes his ideas and preconceptions to their limits and takes his
readers along for the ride. A die-hard libertarian who believes the state
should be limited and individual freedom expanded, he is nonetheless the
consummate intellectual who first and foremost demands he offer up ironclad
proofs for his characteristically counterintuitive insights into law and
social theory.

Indeed, Epstein's enduring value may not be any particular legal or policy
prescription he's offered over the years but rather his methodology. He
believes in robust and unfettered argument and debate as a way of gaining
knowledge. If you don't put your ideas out in the arena, you can't be doing
your best work, he argues. "The problem when you keep to yourself is you
don't get to hear strong ideas articulated by people who disagree with you,"
he says.

Reason's Nick Gillespie interviewed Epstein at NYU's law building in
October. The conversation was wide-ranging and high-energy--another
Epsteinian virtue. They talked about legal challenges to ObamaCare, the
effects of stimulus spending and TARP bailouts, and a former University of
Chicago adjunct faculty member by the name of Barack Obama, with whom
Epstein regularly interacted in the 1990s and early 2000s.

"He passed through Chicago without absorbing much of the internal culture,"
says Epstein of the president. "He's amazingly good at playing intellectual
poker. But that's a disadvantage, because if you don't put your ideas out
there to be shot down, you're never gonna figure out what kind of revision
you want."

Filmed and edited by Jim Epstein (no relation) with help from Michael C.
Moynihan and Josh Swain.

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