And dick knocks it outta da park! On Jan 17, 4:39 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Gee, I hope when I grow up I can find loony websites like this one with > idiots who will try to stretch something, anything, to make their own > beliefs more respectable. Meanwhile check out Occam's Razor. The > right answer is the simplest answer and when you have a left leaning > dingbat who has a 3 year history of antagonism towards a congresswoman > including letters to her and no signs that he had anything to do with > conservative thought that it is the left that leads him to do what this > particular dingbat did, not the right. Miss Goldberg has a history of > trying to blame all ills on the right. See Bloggingshead for proof and > this particular diatribe and bit of balderdash is yet another example of > how deranged the left can be when their minions go off the rails. > > On 01/17/2011 04:26 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > > > > > From our friend Wythe > > > The Cult Web Film that Inspired Loughner > > > by Michelle Goldberg > > > We now know a little bit more about the matrix of ideas that helped > > inspire Jared Loughner s murderous rampage on Saturday. According to a > > friend of his interviewed on Good Morning America on Wednesday, the > > conspiracy documentary Zeitgeist poured gasoline on his fire and had > > a profound impact on Jared Loughner's mindset and how he views the > > world that he lives in. He was also, according to his friend s > > father, influenced by the documentary Loose Change, a classic of the > > 9/11 Truth movement. This does not mean that either of these movies is > > responsible for making Loughner do what he did, but it does show how > > his madness was shaped by a broader climate of paranoia, and offers a > > clue as to why he targeted Gabrielle Giffords. > > > According to his friend, Zach Osler, Loughner didn't listen to > > political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the left, he > > wasn't on the right. Naturally, conservatives have seized upon this > > to exonerate themselves of charges of incitement. But it s not that > > simple. It s hard to place Zeitgeist and Loose Change on the > > conventional partisan spectrum both come from a shadowy conspiracy-mad > > subculture where the far right and the far left meet. Yet it s the > > contemporary right, the right of Glenn Beck and the Tea Party, that > > has mainstreamed ideas from this demimonde in an unprecedented way. > > > To understand how, it helps to look at the career of Alex Jones, an > > Austin radio host and the country s most prominent conspiracy > > theorist. Jones was the executive producer of Loose Change, and chunks > > of Zeitgeist are taken from his documentary Terrorstorm. Jones > > disagrees with elements of Zeitgeist he s a Christian, while Zeitgeist > > attacks religion but he s said he supports 90 percent of what s in the > > movie, and he promotes it on his show. A lot of people find my work > > because of Zeitgeist, he said during an interview with the > > documentary s director, Peter Joseph. > > > The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party > > are responsible for Loughner s crimes. The point is that he targeted > > Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of > > recognizable conspiracy theories. > > > Both Zeitgeist and Alex Jones promote the idea that world events are > > controlled by a secretive banking cabal that is using debt to enslave > > us all. Zeitgeist echoes Alex Jones in warning that the United States > > is about to be merged with Canada and Mexico into a North American > > Union that will use a new currency, the Amero. When the time is > > right, Zeitgeist informs us, the North American Union, The European > > Union, the African Union, and the Asian Union will be merged together, > > forming the final stages of the plan these men have been working on > > for over 60 years: a one-world government. This government will > > implant microchips in all of our arms. In the end, everybody will be > > locked into a monitored control grid, where every single action you > > perform is documented, it says. > > > Zeitgeist, which came out in 2007 and has since spawned two sequels, > > is an Internet phenomenon. The two-hour documentary is available for > > free online, and according to its creators, it has been viewed tens of > > millions of times. Its claims are heatedly debated on Ron Paul forums > > and anarchist websites; excerpts appear on numerous Tea Party pages. > > It has a global following: When it played in a South African theater, > > the Cape Times described it as a disturbing reminder of the subtle > > move towards a micro-chipped society, with the world's population > > potentially destined to be logged onto a monitored grid, leading up to > > a centralized one world economy. > > > The idea of control and manipulation is the movie s real theme, > > knitting together its disparate parts. Zeitgeist's second-third > > rehashes classic 9/11 Truth theories that purport to show that the > > attacks were actually an inside job. This was done, the final section > > argues, at the behest of a banking cabal that has repeatedly goaded > > the United States into war in order to solidify its wealth and power. > > Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at the think tank Political Research > > Associates and one of the country s foremost experts on right-wing > > movements, points out that Zeitgeist borrows liberally from the G. > > Edward Griffin s The Creature from Jekyll Island, an expose of the > > Federal Reserve System popular with the John Birch Society, Alex > > Jones, and some Tea Party groups. It also draws on ideas from the > > Protocols of the Elders of Zion, though it never mentions Jews. > > > Right-wing conspiratorial beliefs have long festered on the fringes, > > but in the Obama era, they ve been injected into the center of our > > politics like never before. The distance between figures like Alex > > Jones and the contemporary conservative movement has shrunk > > alarmingly. > > > Steeped in the rhetoric of the militia movement, Jones has promoted > > just about every conspiracy theory out there: He even accused the > > Illuminati of putting its symbols in the Starbucks logo as a taunting > > show of strength. Though rooted in the right, he also occasionally has > > guests from the far left he s hosted Democratic Congressman Dennis > > Kucinich [Kucinich is on the "far left"? -- WH] as well as Texas > > Republican Louie Gohmert. His political hero is Ron Paul he runs > > RonPaulWarRoom.com, and Paul is a frequent guest on his radio show. > > But until recently, most conservatives disdained him. In 2007, > > Michelle Malkin argued that Paul s association with Jones was enough > > to disqualify the congressman from participating in GOP primary > > debates. > > > Since then, though, Republican politics have become a lot more > > paranoid. Tea Party groups and Fox News started echoing Jones > > warnings that the swine flu virus was really a pretext to establish > > martial law. Lou Dobbs went on Jones show in 2008 to discuss the > > coming North American Union. In March 2009, Jones released The Obama > > Deception, which argued that Obama is the front man for a > > transnational oligarchy working to create a one-world totalitarian > > state. The day after it came out, the online Fox News show Freedom > > Watch did a joint broadcast with him. I appreciate what you re > > exposing, Fox host Andrew Napolitano told Jones. I must tell you > > that there was a time when the types of things that you are warning > > against was not discussed openly and publicly. Glenn Beck > > fictionalized Jones-style conspiracy theories in his 9/11 truth-themed > > novel, The Overton Window. > > > People who study the right have worried for months about the > > consequences of paranoid beliefs about treasonous government plots. In > > 2009, Berlet authored a report titled, Toxic to Democracy: Conspiracy > > Theories, Demonization and Scapegoating. It traced the history and > > dissemination of the kind of conspiracy theories floating around the > > right, and said, People who believe conspiracist allegations > > sometimes act on those irrational beliefs, and this has concrete > > consequences in the real world. > > > Loughner was caught up in the sort of conspiratorial fantasy Berlet > > was describing. His YouTube videos are often unintelligible, but in > > their moments of lucidity, they rail against manipulation of the > > currency system and the illegitimate power of the federal government, > > obsessions of the right-wing populist milieu. In this milieu, > > politicians like Gabrielle Giffords weren t simply wrong, they were > > agents of an intolerable tyranny manipulating the economy and turning > > Americans into slaves. Hence the vitriol and intimations of violence > > that scared Giffords and her staff well before Saturday s shooting. > > > The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party > > are responsible for Loughner s crimes. The point is that he targeted > > Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of > > recognizable conspiracy theories. Right-wing activists and politicians > > have traded on such theories, giving them far more mainstream exposure > > and credibility than they ever had before. Experts on political > > violence have been arguing for months that this is extremely > > dangerous. People like Loughner are the reason why. > > > To read it all: > >http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-13/zeitgeist-t...- > >Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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