On Feb 4, 5:16 pm, Wes <[email protected]> wrote: > i didn't read your guy's s posts, please repeat if there's something u > think i should here. to me the main thing is QUIT SHOPPING AT > UNGAINFUL EMPLOYMENT. i work very close to that and wish people would > give a rip about where thgey spen d their finacial power.
That was a fine example of a rebuttal to the arguments! And here I was enjoying that. Oh well. Sort of a meltdown at the end. Quit shopping at "ungainful" employment? Not sure what you mean there. > > On Jan 31, 4:07 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 31, 4:38 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Lowering the taxes didn't seem to do anything. > > > > Clearly you missed the point. The problem will not be fixed by > > > changing the tax rate, up or down. > > > They don't owe me a job, I don't owe them a lower tax rate. > > > > You're sarcastic "bye bye" has significant consequences. They go, the > > > jobs go. Who do you think is going to do the employing AND who do you > > > think will pay the taxes you so desperately want to rely on? > > > They're inconsequential to the larger picture. > > Imagine, you, a guy who say's; > > > > US corporate executives care only how the > > > company stock is trading on Wall Street. How their actions affect > > > their employees, or the country as a whole, is of no concern to them. > > > Is that how we won WW2? > > But it's exactly why we can't win all the other wars you put the US > > in. > > > > > Of course they won't because the only thing that will in your mind is > > > > lower taxes... the same lower taxes that didn't create any jobs > > > > before. > > > > No where did I say lower taxes. You need to stop being so fixated on > > > the raise/lower taxes argument. That IS NOT the problem. > > > Then why you debating it? > > > >Trading > > > inequities and moving jobs overseas can not be fixed by increasing the > > > marginal tax rate for those making more than xx dollars. > > > You have exactly what you wanted, free trade. > > Now you make the argument that their isn't enough taxes on imported > > goods? > > You want things both ways, all ways, no ways, and then reformed ways. > > But all you could think about during 8 years of Bush Jr. and 12 years > > of a Republican Congress was.... war, security, para-military, police, > > secrecy, eves dropping, intelligence gathering, etc. etc. etc. > > > > > It doesn't matter if there's zero taxes, they still couldn't compete > > > > with countries that have $1 a day workers and $10 a day managers. > > > > Absolutely right! Likewise, a tax rate of 90% wouldn't help us > > > compete, but compete we must. This is why taxes is not the answer. > > > More US friendly trade agreements (monetary policies, opening markets > > > to US goods, etc.) could help us compete, however. And if we're > > > competitive we create more jobs, and if we create more jobs we'll have > > > fewer people dependent on government and higher income from taxes. > > > > > Until they address the problem of a grossly over-paid management, > > > > nothing will change. > > > > Fat cat corporate executives, corrupt 'good ole boy' corporate boards, > > > etc., are all problematic. But you can't fix that problem with > > > increased marginal tax rates. > > > You offer no answers to this. > > You most certainly can fix it, you tax them into the poor house if > > they don't police themselves. > > Plenty other people just waiting to take their jobs at reduced > > compensation. > > > > > Until then, you'll just have to keep blaming the unemployed, the poor, > > > > the hungry, the indigent, those with poor health, Social Security, > > > > unions, and all the other things Republitards typically put blame on. > > > > No disrespect, but your an idiot. You find one post of mine that > > > supports such an asinine assertion and I'll apologize and buy you a > > > beer. > > > Well let's put it this way then; when others of your party do, you say > > nothing. > > You are guilty by way of association.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
