Sage, I can agree with that !!!! It needs a lot less knee jerk reaction and a lot more plain english (of the day) reading.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Keith, Mark et al, > > Suffice it to say that OUR Constitution need never be rewritten > nor changed, but from time to time revisited to it's original intent > and meaning, less personal interpretation. " It is what it is " and > was not intended to be anything more nor anything less than that. The > only true recourse the founding fathers wisely gave us was the " > amendment " and even they should be rare and few. We should not try to > fix what ain't broke by breaking that which don't need fixing ! > > > ************************************************************************************************************************************ > > On Feb 26, 6:31 am, KeithInSeoul <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings from Seoul Korea John! > > > > Uhm.....This seems to me, to be, "Much Ado, About Nothing"..... > > > > We'd all like to read your "New Constitution"; but if ya don't want to > > share it with the group, that is your perogative. > > > > The purpose of Political Forum is to share political thought, ideas, > > commentary and opinion, as well as to comment on government, politics, > world > > affairs and current events. (And occasionally, pro football and > > baseball!) Your posts I find sometimes interesting and usually thought > > provoking, so therein lied my initial interest in you posting your, "New > > Constitution". It was never my intent to get a shit storm started! > > > > If you take the time to read both Jonathan's and Michael's posts, you > will > > find that both men are thoughtful, and probably share many of the same > > concerns as you do. I consider myself a conservative libertarian, (not > so > > much a capitalist as I am one who beleives in protection of free market > > enterprise, and I believe that there is a distinction between a, "free > > market" versus an economic system such as capitalism, of which I also > > support and subscribe to. Jonathan and Michael are damn near > anarchists, > > (and I say that with a smile on my face, I don't think either would agree > > with me!!) but the point being, is that instead of taking the route of > many > > of the nasty, hateful rhetorical smear merchants from the far left, > (e.g.; > > the Wacko left socialist-elitist Moonbats) who from time to time and on > > occasion chime in here; I would like to think that the thoughtful, well > > reasoned conservative voices of Politicall Forum can have discussion, as > > well as disagreement with a little more civility! > > > > At any rate, have a good Saturday....Mine is almost over! > > > > KeithInSeoul > > > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM, NoEinstein <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > MJ: You are NOT wanted on this post! In the last few weeks you've > > > managed to give your cook-booked quotations of others, and your own > > > breakfast-table-written "constitution" of sorts. But you have not > > > even gone back into my thread to read about my New Constitution, which > > > is detailed in essays that highlight the apt portions of my document. > > > And you obviously have no "Regard$" for anyone but yourself. *** > > > Since my base philosophy is pro-capitalism and pro minimumist > > > government, when you attack me—the author-messenger—you are revealing > > > yourself to be a socialist and probably a communist. If it offends > > > you that I have figured you out, take your "quotes" and your "regards” > > > elsewhere. You are not wanted here! — J. A. A. — Patriot > > > > > On Feb 25, 10:45 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And yet ANOTHER fallacy spew. > > > > Let's see this panacea of yours. What -- exactly > > > > -- are you afraid of? That it is shit? > > > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ > > > > > > "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the > > > > consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum > > > > > > At 10:36 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear MJ: You sir, are a total BUM! What I have written describing > my > > > > >New Constitution and how such would be apt to events in the news > would > > > > >fill several "War and Peace"-size novels. Not a single WORD of what > I > > > > >have written supports socialism nor communism! I am in favor of > > > > >having a super-efficient, minimum-size government that has close to > > > > >zero interaction with individual citizens. ‘My’ government will no > > > > >longer keep records on the law-abiding citizens, because taxes will > be > > > > >value-added, only. And I have nixed having the government maintain > > > > >records of criminal investigations of anyone found to be innocent. > > > > >Those on-file records tend to prejudice law enforcement to "convict" > > > > >the person they failed to convict the last time. My corrections of > > > > >corrupt law enforcement practices, alone, should be justification > > > > >enough to ratify my New Constitution! Presently, the USA is a > police > > > > >state—with the strings being pulled by corrupt public figures. And > > > > >the courts have done whatever the political leaders dictate. I’ve > put > > > > >them in their place, big time! > > > > > > >You, MJ, are little more than a party-crasher. I do not appreciate > in > > > > >the least having you post your elementary version of "A" > constitution > > > > >of some kind. Post your God-damned junk constitution under your > name, > > > > >not mine. I am not playing games, here. If you would like to get > > > > >back into anyone's good graces, explain your political philosophy in > > > > >two paragraphs or less. Unless I see the words: “I pro-capitalist > > > > >and anti-socialist”… included, then I will know for sure that you > are > > > > >just some HACKER who is back-dooring your socialist-communist > ideals. > > > > >Anyone who says anything at all negative about my ideals can only be > > > > >the latter. — J. A. A. — > > > > > > >On Feb 23, 9:40 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > In case anyone missed it ... anyone who ASKS to > > > > > > see this 'Constitution' ... is labelled as a socialist-communist. > > > > > > My guess is that this Constitution upholds, > > > > > > endorses and hails ... socialism. THAT is the > > > > > > true reason Armistead does not want to post it OR let anyone 'see > > > it'. > > > > > > Pity. > > > > > > > > Regard$, > > > > > > --MJ > > > > > > > > "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the > > > > > > consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum > > > > > > > > At 09:33 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Dear Jonathan: Get this and get this good: Your "pushy" > attitude on > > > > > > >MY post about MY New Constitution pegs you as a likely > socialist- > > > > > > >communist. You are not wanted here, nor anywhere else in the > USA! > > > — > > > > > > >John A. Armistead — Patriot > > > > > > > > >On Feb 23, 2:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley < > [email protected]> > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > How does John expect to implement his New > > > > > Constitution if no one is ever > > > > > > > > allowed to read it? He sounds like a wanna-be dictator in the > > > making. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/23/2011 11:45 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public > has > > > > > > > > > scarcely been commented on. I am NOT wishing to have your > nor > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > else's feedback on what I have written! Most would love to > see > > > the > > > > > > > > > entire document so that they can make grandiose criticisms > > > about this > > > > > > > > > or that. From my personal life, I have had head-to-head > > > run-ins with > > > > > > > > > our corrupt state, local, and federal governments that > allow me > > > to > > > > > > > > > speak from personal experience that few if any other person > > > could > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > had. That is why my New Constitution will immediately fire > or > > > kick > > > > > > > > > out of office any public official or employee, including > the > > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > himself, who does not respond appropriately for a logical > > > request of > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > single law-abiding citizen for the redress of a grievance. > To > > > wit: > > > > > > > > > > > Substitute "Obamacare" and thats what the DEMS slammed down > > > your > > > > > > > > > throats. > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 11:07 am, NoEinstein<[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Dear Keith: Thanks for your rational-toned reply. My New > > > > > > > > >> Constitution will indeed be copyrighted. But only those > parts > > > of it > > > > > > > > >> not copied and adapted from the original, public-domain > > > document. > > > > > > > > >> This isn't being done for making money > > > > > from the sale of copies, but to > > > > > > > > >> be sure no crazies print 'modified copies' that would, > > > maliciously, > > > > > > > > >> make me look bad�as part of a > > > > > socialist/communist plot to side-track > > > > > > > > >> my efforts. > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm not sure you nor others realize > > > > > that my document has, for fourteen > > > > > > > > >> years, withstood the test of correcting the daily crises > > > highlighted > > > > > > > > >> in the news, and the regular > > > > > injustices coming from our courts. What > > > > > > > > >> is included is at least ten times broader in scope than > the > > > original > > > > > > > > >> constitution. Realize that I have had the advantage (over > the > > > > > > > > >> Founding Fathers) of seeing what has and what hasn't > worked > > > with our > > > > > > > > >> Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > >> That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public > has > > > > > > > > >> scarcely been commented on. I am NOT > > > > > wishing to have your nor anyone > > > > > > > > >> else's feedback on what I have written! Most would love > to > > > see the > > > > > > > > >> entire document so that they can make > > > > > grandiose criticisms about this > > > > > > > > >> or that. From my personal life, I > > > > > have had head-to-head run-ins with > > > > > > > > >> our corrupt state, local, and federal governments that > allow > > > me to > > > > > > > > >> speak from personal experience that > > > > > few if any other person could have > > > > > > > > >> had. That is why my New Constitution will immediately > fire or > > > kick > > > > > > > > >> out of office any public official or > > > > > employee, including the President > > > > > > > > >> himself, who does not respond > > > > > appropriately for a logical request of a > > > > > > > > >> single law-abiding citizen for the redress of a grievance. > > > To wit: > > > > > > > > > > >> "1st Amendment: No law shall be made regarding the > > > establishment of > > > > > > > > >> peaceable religion or prohibiting the free exercise > thereof, > > > but > > > > > > > > >> government, its campaigns, processes, > > > > > slogans, and disbursements shall > > > > > > > > >> be secular. No law nor private or civil action shall > abridge: > > > the > > > > > > > > >> freedom of speech; the freedom of a fair and pro-democracy > > > press or > > > > > > > > >> other medium; the right of People to peaceably assemble; > *** > > > and the > > > > > > > > >> right of any Citizen or group to petition government or > any of > > > its > > > > > > > > >> branches or departments for redress of grievances. > Citizens > > > so > > > > > > > > >> petitioning > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- *Mark M. 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