<Grin>! I still love ya Jonathan, and if you looked a little better, and were here in my little tiny apartment in Köln Zentrum, I'd probably swap a little sugar with ya! Or at least offer ya a beer!
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Jonathan Ashley < [email protected]> wrote: > Now you're resorting to Moonbat tactics. How appropriate! > > > On 06/04/2011 01:35 PM, Keith In Köln wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jonathan Ashley < > [email protected]> wrote: > Keith, > > You're losing it, man! > > Every claim I made about Gingrich votes was ultimately backed up with links > to his Yea votes for the referenced legislation. > > LOL!! No it wasn't! Put the crack rock down Jonathan!! > > > > It is you who attempted (without success) to twist the facts by claiming > Gingrich did not vote for the bills I referenced. You went so far as to post > links to bills I had not referenced in an attempt to dispel my claims. You > also claimed he voted Nay for one of the bills I referenced by linking to > votesmart.org where it clearly showed he had voted Yea. (That was the only > part of the summary you left out. How convenient!) > > Anyone who subscribes to this group can scan the archives, click the links, > and find out for themselves who is twisting facts. > >> >> >> On 06/04/2011 12:22 PM, Keith In Köln wrote: >> >> Jonathan! >> >> It was just a few days (or maybe it was weeks?) that you and Michael were >> jumping all over Newt Gingrich because his actions were purportedly >> different than his speeches and what he said in public, (and then we >> learned that it wasn't nearly like that once we started actually looking at >> the Bills and legislation that actually got passed.....Remember?) and now, >> you want to take a speech that Lou Rockwell made seven years ago, and >> somehow make this into me, twisting facts. >> >> I think not. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jonathan Ashley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Keith, >>> >>> Once again you are wrong. >>> >>> "As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all >>> individuals are sovereign over their own lives, and no one is forced to >>> sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others." Lew Rockwell, >>> Libertarian Party Convention, 2004. Sounds like he knows what a libertarian >>> is. >>> >>> As for ObamaCare, there are 378 articles on lewrockwell.com regarding >>> this "obamanation." I challenge you to find even one that supports of your >>> contention that Rockwell has supported it "to some varying degree." >>> >>> You are getting to be as bad as Tommy For News. You know what you know -- >>> damn the facts. >>> >>> How is it you make a living as a lawyer? OH! My bad! I momentarily forgot >>> that lawyers make a living twisting facts to benefit their clients. >>> >>> >>> On 06/04/2011 11:28 AM, Keith In Köln wrote: >>> >>> Hello Jonathan, >>> >>> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think so. I could have only got >>> this from columns that Michael posts, as I don't frequent Lou Rockwell's >>> site any longer, unless it is because of something, as stated, I got from >>> PF, and usually it is Michael that posts Rockwell's articles. >>> >>> Again, feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but "Libertarian" Lou >>> Rockwell supported to some varying degree, ObamaCare. Not only is >>> "Libertarian" and "ObamaCare" oxymoronic, it is glaringly stupid. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jonathan Ashley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I find it interesting that you used the phrase "in truth and fact" >>>> twice in your response to MJ, but in one instance, "in truth and fact," you >>>> failed to provide any factual evidence to support your claims that Rockwell >>>> "is in favor of ObamaCare." or that "Lou (sic) doesn't have a clue what a >>>> 'Libertarian' even is." >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/04/2011 03:38 AM, Keith In Köln wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:01 PM, MJ <> wrote:* >>>> >>>> *Rockwell is neither the author of the piece NOR does his name appear >>>> within it.* >>>> ** >>>> *===* >>>> >>>> The article appears on LouRockwell.com, where you cut and paste it >>>> from: >>>> >>>> http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/kolbjornsen1.1.1.html >>>> >>>> *Michael goes on to say:* >>>> >>>> *Additionally, the author says nothing regarding the Government >>>> Entities of Freddie and Fannie or whether Bush tried to modify their >>>> policies. The SAME goes with Clinton, CRA, etc.* >>>> ** >>>> *<scratches head>* >>>> >>>> === >>>> Exactly; proving once again that the author hasn't a clue about what >>>> the Hell he is even talking about. Both Rockwell and the author, (Is the >>>> Author even American?) ignores the real issue of the, "three year >>>> anniversary of the dramatic financial events of September 2008"; which was >>>> in truth and fact caused by the communist inspired Democratic initiative, >>>> the Community Reinvestment Act. Rockwell, Jens C. Kolbjørnsen (possibly a >>>> Swede? I'd love to hear his views on Swedish politics!) obviously don't >>>> want to discuss the real culprit, instead focuing and inferring blame on >>>> the >>>> wront entities. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eugene Ludwig, President Clinton's Comptroller of the Currency and head >>>> of the Office of the Comptroller and Currency, was a strong proponent of >>>> expanding the reach of Community Reinvestment Act. Ludwig said in his >>>> confirmation hearing that his first priority as Comptroller would be to >>>> eliminate >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *"discrimination from our financial system, root and branch." >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> Ludwig told bankers, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *"If you seize this issue as an opportunity, you will reap the benefits >>>> in the form of new business and heightened respect from the press, the >>>> Congress, and your communities."* (*See* the CATO Institute, a >>>> non-partisan Libertarian Think-Tank, link provided below) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With regard to the Community Reinvestment Act, Clinton Administration >>>> Attorney General Janet Reno said, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *"No loan is exempt, no bank is immune. For those who thumb their nose >>>> at us, I promise vigorous enforcement." >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:90IT4MK9474J:www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv17n4/vmck4-94.pdf+Community+Reinvestment+Act&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Finally, Lou Rockwell, the purported "Libertarian" that he is, ignores >>>> former President Clinton's admission of guilt. On September 26, 2008, His >>>> Holiness said: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have, may rest more in >>>> resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I was >>>> president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and >>>> Freddie Mac." >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MELTDOWN_ADS?SITE=DCUSN&SECTION=POLITICS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT >>>> >>>> Lou Rockwell. A political hack, who parades himself as a >>>> "Libertarian". A purported "Libertarian" who is ignorant of our history, >>>> our culture, our system of government, macro or micro economics, and a >>>> purported "Libertarian" who is in favor of ObamaCare. How......Oxymoronic. >>>> In truth and fact, Lou doesn't have a clue what a "Libertarian" even is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:30 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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