Agreed PlainOl',  and Obama's vision for America far outreaches building a
few roads, food inspection and a weather satellite or two.....




On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:06 PM, plainolamerican
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Obama inadvertently presented us with his view of the role of
> government:
> We all want a government that lives within its means, but there are
> still things we need to pay for as a country -- things like new roads
> and bridges; weather satellites and food inspection; services to
> veterans and medical research.
> ---
> Obama is a socialist and needs to be removed from our government asap
> by any means necessary.
>
>
> On Aug 1, 3:00 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> > President Obama on the Role of Governmentby Laurence M. Vance, August 1,
> 2011
> > In hisspeechlast week from the East Room of the White House to the
> American people on deficit reduction and debt-ceiling negotiations,
> President Obama inadvertently presented us with his view of the role of
> government:We all want a government that lives within its means, but there
> are still things we need to pay for as a country -- things like new roads
> and bridges; weather satellites and food inspection; services to veterans
> and medical research.Many times when someone, and especially a politician,
> says “we” he really means “I,” and is just trying to make it look like many
> others share his particular point of view. But I believe that when the
> president said that “we all want” a government that will do these things he
> was correct. The view that the federal government should build new roads and
> bridges, design, build, and launch weather satellites, perform food
> inspections, provide services to veterans, and undertake or fund medical
> research is widely held by most members of Congress, government bureaucrats,
> politicians of both parties, Americans of all political persuasions, and
> federal contractors who benefit from these things.
>  > Philosophical arguments against the federal government’s doing these
> things because they violate the principle of limited government have always
> been made by libertarians and occasionally been made by conservatives.
> > Although not discounting the importance of these philosophical arguments,
> there is a simple way to show that role of the federal government is a
> limited one that does not extend to paying for roads and bridges, weather
> satellites, food inspection, medical research, and most services to veterans
> as envisioned by the president.
> > Often blatantly violated or quietly ignored, even as it is held up as the
> authority in all matters relating to the government, the Constitution --
> certainly neither a perfect nor a libertarian document -- is nevertheless
> central to the president’s assertions of the proper role of the federal
> government.
> > All members of Congress, the ones who appropriate taxpayer money to pay
> for every new federally funded road and bridge, weather satellite, food
> inspection, service to veterans, and medical research, take the following
> oath of office:I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
> and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
> foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
> same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or
> purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties
> of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.The president,
> the one who signs into law all congressional appropriations bills, takes the
> following oath of office:I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
> faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to
> the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the
> United States.So, what does the Constitution say about roads, bridges,
> weather satellites, food inspection, services to veterans, and medical
> research? Very little if it says anything at all. Article I, section 8 of
> the Constitution grants power to the federal government to do certain things
> in eighteen very brief paragraphs.
> > On food inspection and medical research the Constitution is silent.
> Clearly, then, the federal government is not constitutionally authorized to
> perform or fund food inspections or undertake or fund medical research. The
> federal government shouldn’t have anything to do with food inspections or
> medical research for the simple reason that the government shouldn’t have
> anything to do with any inspections or research. But this prohibition goes
> even deeper than this. The federal government has no authority to subsidize
> farmers, issue nutrition guidelines, make food pyramids, promote or demonize
> certain foods, ban unpasteurized dairy products, regulate food production
> and labeling, or encourage healthy eating. And neither does the federal
> government have the authority to require medical licensing, regulate medical
> schools, restrict organ sales or donations, mandate and/or provide
> vaccinations, fund HIV/AIDS prevention initiatives, monitor the manufacture
> and sale of medical devices, regulate the medical insurance industry, or
> fund anyone’s health care or medical treatment.
> > The closest thing in the Constitution to the federal government’s having
> the authority to build new roads and bridges is the power of Congress in
> Article I, section 8, paragraph 7, to “establish post offices and post
> roads.” This is certainly not what President Obama meant by “new roads and
> bridges.” The president was referring to what used to be called “internal
> improvements.” In the early years of the country, there was great debate
> between the advocates of centralized government and supporters of
> decentralized government. Centralizers favored Henry Clay’s “American
> System” of protectionist tariffs (mercantilism), centralized banking
> (inflation), and internal improvements (corporate welfare, subsidies to
> politically favored businesses, and wasteful and inefficient federal
> public-works boondoggles).
> > President James Madison vetoed an “internal improvements” bill in 1817
> because he considered it unconstitutional:I am not unaware of the great
> importance of roads and canals and the improved navigation of water courses,
> and that a power in the National Legislature to provide for them might be
> exercised with signal advantage to the general prosperity. But seeing that
> such a power is not expressly given by the Constitution, and believing that
> it can not be deduced from any part of it without an inadmissible latitude
> of construction and reliance on insufficient precedents; believing also that
> the permanent success of the Constitution depends on a definite partition of
> powers between the General and the State Governments, and that no adequate
> landmarks would be left by the constructive extension of the powers of
> Congress as proposed in the bill, I have no option but to withhold my
> signature from it, and to cherishing the hope that its beneficial objects
> may be attained by a resort for the necessary powers to the same wisdom and
> virtue in the nation which established the Constitution in its actual form
> and providently marked out in the instrument itself a safe and practicable
> mode of improving it as experience might suggest.Obviously, weather
> satellites weren’t in existence when the Constitution was written, but if
> the Constitution doesn’t even authorize the federal government to make
> important internal improvements like constructing canals, roads, and
> bridges, then it certainly doesn’t sanction government weather satellites.
> > That federal government should provide services to the nation’s veterans
> on the surface seems reasonable. After all, there are six paragraphs in
> Article I, section 8, of the Constitution that relate in some way to the
> military:To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make
> rules concerning captures on land and water;To raise and support armies, but
> no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two
> years;To provide and maintain a navy;To make rules for the government and
> regulation of the land and naval forces;To provide for calling forth the
> militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel
> invasions;To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia,
> and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the
> United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the
> officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the
> discipline prescribed by Congress;The problem with most of the services
> provided by the government to veterans is that there shouldn’t be the need
> for such services in the first place. Nowhere does the Constitution
> authorize the United States to go abroad searching for monsters to destroy
> or otherwise fight foreign wars. And certainly not undeclared, immoral, and
> senseless military adventures like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We
> shouldn’t have tens of thousands of veterans with PTSD, traumatic brain
> injuries, missing limbs, severed spinal cords, or third-degree burns. We
> shouldn’t have veterans killing themselves and others. We shouldn’t have
> veterans who can’t hold down a job. We should have veterans who can’t
> function in society. We shouldn’t have veterans with broken families. The
> services required by veterans would be greatly diminished if the military
> were used strictly in the defense of the United States.
> > Although President Obama was right, the fact that “we” want the federal
> government to build our roads, keep us informed about the weather, inspect
> our food, service our veterans, and fund our medical research doesn’t mean
> that it is proper or constitutional for the government to do so. And as
> President Gerald Ford said in an address to a joint session of Congress: “A
> government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big
> enough to take from you everything you have.”
> http://www.fff.org/comment/com1108b.asp
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