Do you believe in Israel's right to exist? If the answer is yes, do you believe in Israel's right to defend itself?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > What is your objection to Zionism? Why do you care if Jews have a > Homeland, and want to return to it? > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:09 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> the MSM, Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann >> --- >> all are zionists >> >> know the enemy >> >> On Aug 18, 12:54 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Ron Paul and Libertyby Walter BlockIf Ron Paul had won the Ames Iowa >> poll, the mainstream media would have dismissed the entire exercise as >> unimportant. If he had come in at, oh, 6th place, they would have used this >> as evidence that he is incompetent, not in the first rank of Republican >> candidates, can’t get out the vote, the American people had rejected his >> candidacy, etc. So, when Congressman Paul took a magnificent second place, >> only 1% behind the winner, I said to myself, Hot diggity dog; the MSM can’t >> ignore him now. They cannot dismiss this entire result since if they did so, >> they would have to also deprecate Michele Bachmann’s win, and that they will >> not do. They now MUST give Dr. Paul his due credit, since he finished in >> close second place to her. They will be forced to discuss his ideas: bring >> the troops home, get rid of the Fed, drastically reduce taxes, eliminate a >> slew of illicit Federal departments, legalize drugs and other victimless >> crimes, stop foreign "aid," save the American dollar via 100% gold backing, >> etc. >> > Silly me. That shows how much I know. Instead, the talking heads are now >> tooting this line: "The three front runners are Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and >> Michele Bachmann." In their view, these are the major candidates, and all >> the others are also-rans. Why Mitt Romney? Well, he looks presidential, and >> he has a good chance with the tea partiers despite his Romney-car health >> policy in Massachusetts, oh so similar to Obama-care. Why Rick Perry? Well, >> he’s the governor of Texas, the second biggest state, isn’t he? And this >> despite the fact that he has not yet won anything in the presidential >> sweepstakes. Why Michele Bachmann? This is because, of course, she just won >> the Ames Iowa poll. Notice any name missing from all of this? I’ll give you >> a hint: this is the guy who came in SECOND, 1% behind "major candidate" >> Bachmann in this recent election. There used to be among the beltway >> "Austro-libertarians" a campaign to promote and study Austrian economics >> without "You Know Who" (Ludwig von Mises, of course). There is now a >> campaign amongst the major media to analyze the Republican presidential >> process without uttering the name of "You Know Who" (Ron Paul, of course). >> > What can be done about this? Well, keep sending in those cards and >> letters; keep protesting; keep writing those e mails to these self-appointed >> judges. Vote for Ron Paul. And, most of all, let us all pledge to donate as >> much as we can to all of the upcoming Ron Paul money bombs. >> > There are some otherwise excellent libertarians who hold their noses at >> the political process. They think it is somehow incompatible with the non >> aggression principle, the foundation of our philosophy. Voting just gives >> "them" sanction, these people think. Well, if so, then libertarians should >> not use fiat currency to transact grocery purchases, travel on government >> roads, attend concerts at public theatres, patronize public libraries, >> parks, museums, teach in, or attend, any public university, or even private >> one that is subsidized. They should also not eat food, since the government >> is heavily involved in subsidizing some of it. They should not live in >> houses, since the statists have heavily involved themselves with building >> materials. They should eschew … the list goes on and on, and includes every >> jot and tittle of the economy, so heavily ensconced in it is the state >> apparatus. >> > The point is, the modern government is so heavily engaged in ALL facets >> of our lives. If we really didn’t want to give "sanction" to them, and >> wanted, also, to be logically consistent, we could not operate in modern >> society at all. We would have to either go off to live in a self sufficient >> farm, or commit suicide. Hey, we don’t want to lose our souls, do we? >> > Some libertarians say that we have a choice regarding whether or not to >> vote, to support Dr. Paul, whereas we have no choice with regard to any of >> these other things. Nonsense. No, nonsense on stilts! Human action always >> includes choice. We are engaging in human action all over the place. Self >> sufficient farming, and/or suicide ARE choices! This attitude of >> libertarians is very self destructive. It prevents us from supporting Ron >> Paul to the extent that would otherwise be the case. >> > I suggest a remedy for this sort of irrational thinking. It is Murray >> Rothbard’s "Do you hate the state?" availablehere. While you’re at it, read >> this other excellentpieceby the same author, about my man Hector. If we >> really see our political leaders as the gangsters most of them are (there >> are but a few honorable exceptions to this general rule, certainly including >> in the modern day You Know Who, and his son, the junior Senator from >> Kentucky), we will reject this utter nonsense that to engage with them in >> any way is to be false to libertarianism. If we don’t engage them, in many, >> many ways, certainly including voting, how will we ever rid ourselves of >> this pestilence? If we don’t support the greatest advocate of libertarianism >> now active in behalf of the cause of liberty (hint: You Know Who), we lose >> the best opportunity we now have to promote this philosophy. >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
