It is all about our dollar as being the reserve currency of the world --- try again
On Sep 9, 11:05 am, lbiglee75 <[email protected]> wrote: > Keith, I didn't say it was over oil. It is all about our dollar as > being the reserve currency of the world. What price are we paying to > maintain that? > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Leroy, > > > First, I dispute that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are only over oil. > > To prove my point, if this were the case, why didn't we just keep the oil > > fields that we had taken back in the first Gulf war? Why didn't we just > > nationalize the oil fields in Iraq back five or six years ago? The same > > logic applies with the Trans-Afghanistan oil pipeline? That dawg won't > > hunt.... > > > Having said the above, there is no question that havng free and > > unrestricted access to the oil in the Southest Asian region is imperative to > > our national interests. it was our techology, our know-how, our > > equipment, our man-power, our resources and our dollars that found the > > oil, drilled for the oil, pumped the oil, and transported the oil to > > refineries and to market. > > > Whether you like it, or don't like it, Western civilization is based on > > hydrocarbons, from the clothes that you wear, to the food that you eat, to > > the toilet that you shit upon, not to mention every single source of energy > > and transportation that you utilize. Yep, oil is no question very > > important, and it is in our national interests to keep those sources of oil > > viable and flowing. > > > War, (to include "police actions" such as we are involved in Afghanistan > > and to a lesser degree Iraq) suck. War is Hell. Folks die. Innocent > > folks. Not so innocent folks. There is collateral damage. There is intended > > damage. Nothing pretty, nothing really good coming out of a war. > > > Other than to protect our national interests. (See Above). > > > If we had it all over to do again, would we choose another course of > > action? I don't have the answer to that, but I would think so. It turned > > out that Iraq was not as much of a threat as was first suspicioned, but > > "We" all believed that Hussein was a threat, and when I say, "We"; I mean > > the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Russians, all of the European Union, our > > CIA, the MI5, etc., etc., etc. > > > I will agree that I don't have a clue what we are doing in Afghanistan > > today. I don't see a real exit strategy, and I don't know the purpose of > > what the Hell we are doing there in 2011. > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:09 AM, lbiglee75 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Keith, do you mean that the one we have now is right? Costing us lives > >> and bankrupting our nation. Their talking about the only way out of > >> our dilemma is another world war. Do you think for one minute that > >> the Global Elite wants Ron Paul's message out? Do you think they want > >> an open hearing about the Fed and the monetary system out? What was > >> the deal made with OPEC to accept our dollar for payment for oil and > >> what has it cost us? I don't care about the money, But the lives is an > >> other matter. Sorry I don't agree with your assessment. > > >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Good Morning from Tampa Leroy! > > >> > As I have stated, I think Dr. Paul is brilliant, and exactly on point > >> > with > >> > his fiscal and economic policies. We have now seen most all of the > >> > Republican candidates adopt the majority of what Paul has been saying > >> > for > >> > ten years or more. > > >> > Other than Paul's fiscal and economic policies, Paul is so literally > >> > clueless when it comes to foreign policy, that it makes him dangerous. > >> > Paul is an isolationist, in a very dangerous world. > > >> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, lbiglee75 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> Keith, out of 77.000 votes Kieth what is Ron Paul saying other than he > >> >> believe we the people know better what is best than the Fed's > >> >> dictating to us and telling us what drum beat we must follow. When he > >> >> is given a chance he can hold his own.Believe me all the others will > >> >> be marching to someone beat. > > >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Most all conservative pundits gave Paul an F. > > >> >> > Again, Paul has staunch supporters. The fifteen hundred or so that > >> >> > are > >> >> > around the Nation are vocal. Much like Moonbats. > > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:56 PM, plainolamerican > >> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> >> Go RP!!! > > >> >> >> On Sep 8, 5:54 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > Thursday, September 8, 2011Truth versus MSNBC (about Ron > >> >> >> > Paul)Robert > >> >> >> > Wenzel > >> >> >> > Last night after the Republican presidential debate, MSNBC > >> >> >> > conducted > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > poll online to see who viewers thought won the debate. It was a > >> >> >> > blow > >> >> >> > away > >> >> >> > victory for Ron Paul, below is a bar chart showing the Ron Paul > >> >> >> > win > >> >> >> > and also > >> >> >> > the bar chart that was run by MSNBC. Notice the incorrect > >> >> >> > proportions > >> >> >> > in the > >> >> >> > MSNBC chart showing Rick Perry and Mitt Romney much closer to Ron > >> >> >> > Paul, in > >> >> >> > votes, than they actually were. By the way the MSNBC chart was > >> >> >> > even > >> >> >> > more > >> >> >> > distorted early on. Bob Murphy caught a screenshot of theBig Lie. > >> >> >> > (Thanks 2 John T Foster for the correctly proportioned > > >> >> >> > chart.)http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/truth-versus-msnbc-about... > > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> >> >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> >> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> >> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> >> -- > >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> > -- > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. 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