yep ... it's complicated yet clear ... jewish influence on our politicians is widespread -------------------------------------------- Ya think?
Yet I keep hearing its the right who march in lockstep with the Zionists. Oooops! I saw this on day 1, when Rahm Emanuel was named COS. There's a reason Wiki deleted Rahm's dad, and steered to Rahm. And I support the POTUS on this one. On Sep 22, 12:31 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Who just stood in front of the UN and said the US will veto any bid > for Palestinian statehood? > --- > On May 19, 2011, Obama made a foreign policy speech in which he called > for a return to the pre-1967 Israeli borders with mutually agreed land > swaps. Obama was criticized by many on the right in the U.S. for the > proposal. > The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, a Republican think > tank, reports that Obama has imposed a virtual arms embargo on Israel. > Obama blocked all major Israeli weapons requests, including key > projects and upgrades, linking arms sales to progress in the peace > process. At the same time, Obama approved $10 billion in arms sales to > Arab states, including fighters, missiles, helicopters, and fast > attack craft. Israel did not protest, despite reports that its > qualitative military edge was being eroded. > > According to a classified U.S. State Departmment cable from October > 31, 2008, released during the United States diplomatic cables leak, > the U.S. embassies in Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi > Arabia, as well as the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency, were > directed by the Bush administration to conduct espionage operations > against Israel, targeting all aspects of Israel's political system, > society, communications infrastructure, and military. Diplomats and > spies were asked to gather intelligence on planned Israeli military > operations, military units, equipment, maintenance levels, training, > morale, operational readiness, tactics, techniques and procedures for > conventional and unconventional counterinsurgency and counterterrorist > operations, and Israeli assessment on the impact of reserve duty in > the occupied territories on its military readiness. Information was > also sought on government plans, potential ways Israeli politicians > could be influenced, how politicians decide to launch military > strikes, the attitude of politicians towards the U.S, the official and > personal phone numbers, fax numbers, and e-mail addresses of military > and civilian leaders, Israeli military, intelligence, and civilian > communications infrastructure, and coded means of producing passports > and government ID badges. > > which political party does US support to Israel come from? > > yep ... it's complicated yet clear ... jewish influence on our > politicians is widespread > > --- > Ron Paul: > Madame Speaker, I strongly oppose H. Res. 34, which was rushed to the > floor with almost no prior notice and without consideration by the > House Foreign Affairs Committee. The resolution clearly takes one side > in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US > interests. I am concerned that the weapons currently being used by > Israel against the Palestinians in Gaza are made in America and paid > for by American taxpayers. What will adopting this resolution do to > the perception of the United States in the Muslim and Arab world? What > kind of blowback might we see from this? What moral responsibility do > we have for the violence in Israel and Gaza after having provided so > much military support to one side? > > As an opponent of all violence, I am appalled by the practice of > lobbing homemade rockets into Israel from Gaza. I am only grateful > that, because of the primitive nature of these weapons, there have > been so few casualties among innocent Israelis. But I am also appalled > by the longstanding Israeli blockade of Gaza — a cruel act of war — > and the tremendous loss of life that has resulted from the latest > Israeli attack that started last month. > > There are now an estimated 700 dead Palestinians, most of whom are > civilians. Many innocent children are among the dead. While the > shooting of rockets into Israel is inexcusable, the violent actions of > some people in Gaza does not justify killing Palestinians on this > scale. Such collective punishment is immoral. At the very least, the > US Congress should not be loudly proclaiming its support for the > Israeli government’s actions in Gaza. > > Madame Speaker, this resolution will do nothing to reduce the fighting > and bloodshed in the Middle East. The resolution in fact will lead the > US to become further involved in this conflict, promising “vigorous > support and unwavering commitment to the welfare, security, and > survival of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.” Is it really in > the interest of the United States to guarantee the survival of any > foreign country? I believe it would be better to focus on the security > and survival of the United States, the Constitution of which my > colleagues and I swore to defend just this week at the beginning of > the 111th Congress. I urge my colleagues to reject this resolution. > > On Sep 22, 9:04 am, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Who just stood in front of the UN and said the US will veto any bid > > for Palestinian statehood? > > > However, I not only don't like Perry's reasoning, I think it borders > > on illegal. "Borders" > > > But then, would you rather him not tell us? > > > Try and sort that out. I'm not sure I can > > > On Sep 21, 3:36 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > the idea that a US President’s religious convictions will compel him > > > to support a foreign government, regardless of whether that support > > > serves specifically American interests, is appalling – and dangerous. > > > --- > > > and very unAmerican > > > Perry, like Bachmann, is a zionist and should be seen as the enemy. > > > > otoh - Ron Paul: > > > - would not stop Israel from defending her interests in any way she > > > saw fit - but without US support > > > - has also been criticized for wanting to “end foreign aid to Israel.” > > > He had in fact called for an end to all foreign aid in general. > > > - will not allow American lives to be sacrificed for Israeli interests > > > > Interviewer: [...]“Why do you think that so many US officials, > > > Congress, Senate, show overwhelming support to involving the US over > > > there?” > > > > Ron Paul: [...] “It’s been going on for more than 50 years, because > > > there has been a pretty strong case made for the Jewish people being > > > treated quite badly, and emotionally there was an argument for having > > > a place they can call their homeland, and people bought into this. But > > > even then there was no justification for us to be using our money for > > > doing that. > > > > On Sep 21, 1:43 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Perry’s Faith-Based Foreign Policy DirectiveGod says: 'Put Israel > > > > first'byJustin Raimondo, September 21, 2011 > > > > If Rick Perry makes it to the White House, what will American foreign > > > > policy in the Middle East look like? We got a clear indication of that, > > > > recently, whenhe stated:“As a Christian I have a clear directive to > > > > support Israel, from my perspective its pretty easy both as an American > > > > and a Christian. I am going to stand with Israel.” > > > > Earlier, inan interviewwith theWeekly Standard, he was even more > > > > emphatic, averring that “My faith requires me to support Israel.” > > > > What kind of faith requires knee-jerk support for a foreign country? > > > > Apparently, Perry is a follower of a Protestant brand of Christianity > > > > known as “dispensationalism,” which holds that the End Times are > > > > approaching – and thatone of the signsof the imminent apocalypse is the > > > > gathering of the Jews in the land of Israel, as supposedly foretold in > > > > the Bible. Some dispensationalists equate this with the founding of the > > > > Israeli state, in 1947, and the subsequent migration of many Jews to > > > > that country. According to dispensationalist theology, this phenomenon > > > > prefigures the start of an earth-shattering war, one that will pit > > > > Israel against the Forces of Darkness, herald the rise of the > > > > Anti-Christ, and ignite a battle that will take place on the field of > > > > Armageddon – after which Christ will return to earth and the faithful > > > > will be “raptured” up into Heaven. > > > > Now, I don’t intend to disparage anyone’s religious beliefs, nor do I > > > > want to engage in the kind of snickering that usually accompanies > > > > commentary on this subject: everyone is entitled to their own faith, > > > > and, aside from that, there is something a little unsavory about the > > > > smugness and self-righteousness that is usually attached to discussions > > > > of the impact of Christian fundamentalism on American politics. There > > > > isno religious testfor holding office in these United States, and it > > > > seems to me that some liberals have been trying their best to establish > > > > one – a test ofirreligion– in order to marginalize millions of > > > > Americans. This kind of intolerance is mirrored, on the right, by some > > > > – like GOP presidential aspirantHerman Cain, for example – who have > > > > raised questions about the ability of religious Muslims to have their > > > > voices heard, or even to hold office. > > > > However, the idea that a US President’s religious convictions will > > > > compel him to support a foreign government, regardless of whether that > > > > support serves specifically American interests, is appalling – > > > > anddangerous. And we can see how dangerous it is by looking at Governor > > > > Perry’s attacks on the Obama administration for supposedly not > > > > kowtowing to Tel Aviv with sufficient obeisance. At a press conference > > > > held in New York City, where heappearedwith an Israeli government > > > > official, Perrydeclared:“It is time to change our policy of appeasement > > > > toward the Palestinians to strengthen our ties to the nation of Israel, > > > > and in the process establish a robust American position in the Middle > > > > East characterized by a new firmness and a new resolve.”What, exactly, > > > > does this “policy of appeasement” consist of? The Obama administration > > > > isdeterminedto veto the Palestinian statehood proposal being advanced > > > > in the UN Security Council, and hasmade it clearthat the US government > > > > stands behind the Israelis in their attempt to grab as much land – via > > > > theconstructionof “settlements” – as they can, all of it funded > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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