Why Oppose Interventionism?
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because we know who promotes it and why

let'em fund their charities with their own soldiers and money

On Oct 10, 8:32 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why Oppose Interventionism?What conservatives have forgotten – and 
> libertarians rememberbyJustin Raimondo, October 10, 2011
> I often hear a variant of the following from conservatives (and some 
> liberals) when confronted with theforeign policy viewsoflibertarians: “Sure, 
> I’m all for a more peaceful foreign policy, but you guys take it too far – 
> isolationism won’t work in our increasingly interconnected world. Besides, we 
> have real enemies we have to deal with.”
> There are several problems with this response. First, there is no such thing 
> as “isolationism” andno such creatureas an “isolationist.” Sure, there are 
> some who oppose international trade –labor unions, for one, and other “fair 
> traders” – but libertarians are not included in their ranks. The 
> “isolationist” label wascooked up by interventionistsas a scare word to 
> define the terms of the foreign policy debate and smear their opponents as 
> unrealistic troglodytes.The War Partyis the one really consistent advocate of 
> what might be called isolationism: byforcefully interveningin the internal 
> affairs of other nations, by occupying countries and effecting “regime 
> change,” we isolate ourselves from the rest of the world and retreat into an 
> imperialist cocoon, cutting off all normal – i.e.economicandsocial– 
> relations, andlaying the groundworkfor the kind of “blowback” that results in 
> terrorism directed against the US and its allies.
> Secondly, it would be impossible to take the principle of non-intervention 
> “too far.” Properly applied, that principle means US foreign policy is to be 
> formulated and applied in accordance with the concept of non-aggression: that 
> is, US policy would be consistent with thelibertarian axiomthat the 
> initiation of force is always wrong, andalwayslead to bad results. Nothing 
> bad can ever come of abjuring aggression. On the other hand, an inconsistent 
> or erroneous interpretation of the non-interventionist principle could have 
> equally disastrous results: e.g. the failure to repel an attack on the US in 
> the mistaken belief that such an action would be “interventionist.”
> Yes, but – our imaginary interlocutor might reply – weren’t we attacked on 
> 9/11, and aren’t our actions since then fully justified?
> This brings us to an essential corollary of the non-aggression axiom: that 
> retaliatory force is justifiedonly against those who initiate its use.Which 
> means:invading Iraq– andoccupying Afghanistanforover a decade– is out of the 
> question as a response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The invasion and 
> occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, as dramatic and earth-shaking as these 
> actions were, did not bring us a single step closer to taking out Osama bin 
> Laden and his cronies: that happened only when we engaged in the kind of 
> old-fashioned and decidedly un-dramaticpolice workwhich enabled us to track 
> the terrorist leader to his lair – and then we were in and out of there in a 
> matter ofhours.
> All of which proves that weknowhow to go after terrorists and terrorism inthe 
> right way– but we’d rather not, unless it’s preceded by a long series of 
> wars, because there’s a whole other agenda behind our endless “war on 
> terrorism.” And with the extension of America’s wars of aggressioninto 
> Africa, and a “regime change” campaign underway againstIran,Libya, 
> andgod-knows-who-else, that agenda is not hard to fathom.
> The United States has been lording it over the rest of the worldsince the end 
> of World War II: the United Nations, anembryonic world government, was 
> established at the behest ofAmerican elites. They saw it as the instrument of 
> an emerging “world order” in which Washington, along with its junior partners 
> inLondon,Paris, and –for a while– Moscow, would extend a controlling 
> influence over the entire globe.
> During the cold war era, asramshackle Russiacowered under the pretext of 
> “socialism in one country,” while the US used anticommunist ideology as a 
> rationale to buildan empire of bases– andUS-supported dictatorships– in Asia, 
> Africa, and the Middle East. The interventionist impulse drove us to 
> supportthe Afghan mujahideenin their war of “liberation” against the Soviets 
> – and led to the peculiar concatenation of circumstances that made the 
> creation of al-Qaeda possible.
> Funny how, at every turn, America’s great “allies,” who owed their continued 
> existence to US generosity, wound up becoming our worst enemies. 
> FromLend-Lease to Stalinto US aid to Afghan “freedom-fighters,” the lesson of 
> history is clear: blowback from one era wafts easily into another. We 
> arestill payingfor the sins of our 20thcentury politicians.
> Not that our 21stcentury “leaders” are doing a better job: far from it. The 
> post-9/11 era has seen us replicate every mistake we ever made,times ten. In 
> its ferocity and scope, America’s post-9/11 rampage has no precedent in 
> history:the Mongol invasions, which depopulated large portions of Asia, and 
> extended into parts of Europe, were sporadic by comparison with the 
> relentless American march through the Middle East and Central Asia. It took 
> Genghis Khan and his descendants a hundred years to build an empire on 
> thescaleUS policymakers have constructed in just the last decade.
> The sheer velocity of intervention has picked up, as if our rulers are in an 
> awful hurry to create that “world order” Washington policy wonks 
> areconstantly telling usis necessary fortheirour own “security.”
> This escalation, you’ll note, coincides with theescalating economic 
> crisisthat has gripped the international banking system based onfiat money 
> and government debt– the biggestfinancial weaponsin the War Party’s arsenal. 
> Without the ability to “monetize” the debt – that is, “pay” the debt in 
> devalued dollars issued by the Federal Reserve – America’s matchless military 
> machine and the empire it defends would not exist.
> The real estate “bubble,” the hi-tech “bubble,” and all the many instances 
> ofmalinvestment created by the Federal Reserve– the “private”gang of 
> banksterswho really run the US economy – have their reflection in the foreign 
> policy realm. Sure, we’re going bankrupt, yet you can be sure thebubbleof 
> American imperialism is going to be the very last to pop. Our wise and 
> benevolent rulers would sooner see 90 percent of homeownersforeclosedthan 
> give up a single one of theircherishedcolonial possessions. In thedecadentand 
> rapidlyfailingpolitical culture of what was once a great country, hubris is 
> the defining characteristic of our elites.
> Libertarians oppose our foreign policy of global intervention because the 
> history of America’s wars is the story of how Big Government came to dominate 
> the life of the nation. The outcome of every military conflict with the 
> exception of the American Revolution has been a series ofunprecedented 
> extensionsof government control into new areas. Wartime “temporary 
> emergencies” inevitably hardened into routine regulations, and measures that 
> were formerly unthinkable – e.g. Lincoln’sshutting down of opposition 
> newspapers, Truman’sseizure of the steel millsduring the Korean War, 
> the“PATRIOT” Act, etc. – entered the realm of possibility. In wartime, when 
> expressions of dissent are met with “Don’t you know there’s a war on?”, the 
> collectivist mentality is dominant: the whole nation is militarized, and 
> failure to march in lockstep is considered evidence of “treason.” 
> Libertytends to perishin such an atmosphere, as itnearly didin the war 
> hysteria following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
> Libertarianism seeks to limit the power of government as much as possible. 
> This means opposing the extension of governmental power in every 
> instance,including its extension abroad. That’s why conservatives, 
> whoagreewith the libertarian program of cutting government to a bare minimum 
> on the home front, are caught in an unsupportable contradiction. They are 
> faced with the conundrum of opposing, say, aid to the elderly and sick in 
> this country, while supporting “foreign aid” that supposedly advances our 
> “national interest.”
> In reality, the flow of American tax dollars abroad only advances the 
> economic interests of ourthieving sock-puppets, and certain USexporters, who 
> vacuum up those aid dollars as quickly as they are appropriated. In economic 
> terms, the game of empire is a bust, a net loss by any measure. Conservatives 
> used to know this. It was that old right-wing reactionaryGaret Garrett– 
> prolific writer, noted editor, and prominent enemy of the New Deal – 
> whosaidof the American Imperium that it is an empire without precedent in the 
> history of the world because “everything goes out and nothing comes in.”
> It was the conservatives ofGarrett’s timewho were first accused of being the 
> dreaded “isolationists,” and now their lineal descendants hurl the same 
> charge atus. That’s due to a lapse of historical memory, the saddest case of 
> political amnesia ever recorded. In their more reflective moments, 
> conservatives may wonder why Big Government has only gotten bigger over the 
> years, andneverany smaller. The best they’ve managed to do is todecrease the 
> rate of increase– albeit only incrementally, and temporarily.
> Conservatives won elections, yet still the “march of progress” was always in 
> the direction of bigger and more aggressive government. This happened, and 
> continues to happen, due to their blind spot on the question of war and 
> peace: thereflexive belligerenceof the cold war years, and theperseveranceof 
> neoconservatism in spite of its catastrophic failures in the realm of 
> policyandpolitics, has created an inner contradiction at the core of the 
> modern conservative credo. Conservatives must choose between the moral and 
> political strictures ofthe Constitutionand theperverse joysof militarism. We 
> can have a republic, or we can have an empire: we cannot have both. It’s as 
> simple as that.
> Our message to American liberals varies very little from this essential 
> axiom. The problem is that modern American liberals trace their ideological 
> lineage back to the left wing of the New Deal, and are constantly invoking 
> their hero,Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as an example for President Obama – 
> their current hero – to follow. I’ll bet the Japanese-Americans among their 
> number are a little shocked to hear this, but being so very polite, they no 
> doubt fail to remind their progressive friends of such inconvenient details 
> as theinternment camps.
> In terms of sheer deceptiveness and demagogic power, no American president 
> has ever been such an effective warmonger as FDR. He not onlylied us into 
> war, as Clare Booth Luce so trenchantly put it, but he executed his war plan 
> in such a manner as to make the next war – the “cold” war that sometimes got 
> very hot – practically inevitable. Liberals who complain – rightly – about 
> the erosion of civil liberties in Obama’s (and George W. Bush’s) America will 
> find nearly all the legal precedents were set during FDR’slong and 
> repressivereign.
> Yet the liberal-left of that time didn’t make so much as a peep of protest as 
> Japanese-Americans were hauled off to concentration camps, “subversive” 
> newspapers were banned from the mails, and various dissidents on the right 
> and the left were prosecuted for “sedition.” Indeed, the left-wing media 
> gloried in the persecution of the Japanese, with commie cartoonist Theodor 
> Seuss Geisel, a.k.a. “Dr. Seuss,” givingfull ventto the mostviciousbigotry – 
> from a “progressive” and impeccably “anti-fascist” perspective, of course. 
> WhenLawrence Dennis, a widely-read author and former US diplomat, was tried 
> for sedition on the grounds that the pro-Hitler German American Bund 
> hadcitedhis writings, the American Civil Liberties Union was nowhere to be 
> found.
> Theneoconized conservativesand theObama-ized liberalsare immune to the 
> anti-interventionist argument, and are quite naturally hostile to 
> libertarianism. The only hope, if hope there be, is in the new movements that 
> are emerging on both sides of the political spectrum: the so-called Tea 
> Party, and the Occupy Wall Street movement, which are both in rebellion – in 
> their different ways – against the ideological status quo. While both are 
> also misguided in their separate ways, it is only in the context of a serious 
> rethinking of what it means to be on the “left” or the “right” that a real 
> challenge to the War Party will emerge.
> There are many signs that this is happening, but it is too early to tell if 
> these forces will ever jell into a unified movement with a coherent critique 
> of the modern Warfare State. All we can do at the moment is to push both 
> sides, ever so gently, inthe right direction, provide the space for a new 
> realignment – and hope for the 
> best.http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/10/09/why-oppose-interventionism/

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