8 USC § 1448 <http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1448.html>
Of particular relevance to the dual citizenship issue is that, as part of the oath, a new citizen must pledge "to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen." On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:39 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > Dual citizenships are illicit, period. (I know, there are many > "Americans" who possess dual citizenship....It is nevertheless > illegal. > ---- > try again > Based on the U.S. Department of State regulation on dual citizenship > (7 FAM 1162), the Supreme Court of the United States has stated that > dual citizenship is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a > person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries > > > On Dec 28, 10:32 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dual citizenships are illicit, period. (I know, there are many > > "Americans" who possess dual citizenship....It is nevertheless illegal. > > > > An American citizen is "An American Citizen". Doesn't matter where he > was > > born. (It is a very narrow window for an American citizen to be born > in a > > foreign land). > > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, plainolamerican < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > The > > > foreign born terrorist may not receive a court's review, but the > > > American > > > will. > > > --- > > > oh, so a foreign born US citizen is excluded from the right to a court > > > review? > > > what about those with dual citizenships? > > > > > On Dec 28, 9:21 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Good Morning PlainOl, > > > > > > Yes, including any American who may be associated with terrorists. > The > > > > foreign born terrorist may not receive a court's review, but the > American > > > > will. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:18 PM, plainolamerican > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > I believe that no American can be detained without a Court's review > > > > > --- > > > > > even someone 'associated' with terrorists > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 11:47 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > After study and review, as well as being familiar with the > Supreme > > > Court > > > > > > Decision in *Rumsfeld v. Hamdi*, where the Supremes ruled that > > > EVERY > > > > > > American is entitled to *habeas corpus* and review of detainment; > > > that > > > > > > Section 1022, and the phrase which states in part: > > > > > > > > *b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident > > > Aliens- > > > > > > (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person > in > > > > > > military custody under this section does not extend to citizens > of > > > the > > > > > > United States.* > > > > > > > > I believe that no American can be detained without a Court's > review, > > > > > > whether he has been caught on the battlefield, or in downtown > Tampa. > > > > > > This obviously does not apply to foreign enemy combatants, and I > for > > > one > > > > > > agree that it should not apply to enemy combatants who are not > > > American. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:26 PM, plainolamerican < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > btw - RP's opposition is that the amendment repeals parts of > the > > > bill > > > > > > > of rights, patriot act, 4th and 5th amendments and even magna > carta > > > > > > > principles. > > > > > > > Many Americans don't understand the relationship between local, > > > state, > > > > > > > federal, and military authority. > > > > > > > If thinking that our authorities should have all the resources > they > > > > > > > need to combat terrorism makes me a moonbat then keep calling > me a > > > > > > > moonbat. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 6:28 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just in case you missed it: > > > > > > > > > > *(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful > Resident > > > > > Aliens- > > > > > > > > (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a > person > > > in > > > > > > > > military custody under this section does not extend to > citizens > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > United States. > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Keith In Tampa < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning. > > > > > > > > > > > I am genuinely hoping that you will respond to this post. > As a > > > > > side > > > > > > > note, > > > > > > > > > last week, we had Crackpots and Moonbats claiming that this > > > piece > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > legislation, (which is renewed every year since 1961, with > > > various > > > > > > > > > modifications) was setting up camps to imprison American > > > > > citizens, > > > > > > > (I > > > > > > > > > assume Ron Paul supporters) until level heads pointed out > to > > > these > > > > > > > > > Moonbats and Crackpots that the legislation didn't say > > > anything of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sort. > > > > > > > > > > > What in particular, are you, and others who oppose this > > > > > legislation, > > > > > > > > > opposed to? Here is the section that you reference, > (which by > > > the > > > > > way, > > > > > > > > > does not say what you claim it says). I suggest that all > of > > > the > > > > > > > Moonbats, > > > > > > > > > and all of the Crackpots read the legislation before they > > > listen to > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > Crackpots and Moonbats, and get their proverbial panties > in a > > > wad: > > > > > > > > > > > Subtitle D--Counterterrorism > > > > > > > > > > > SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF > THE > > > > > UNITED > > > > > > > > > STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE > AUTHORIZATION > > > FOR > > > > > USE > > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > > > MILITARY FORCE. > > > > > > > > > > > (a) In General- Congress affirms that the authority of > the > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to > the > > > > > > > Authorization > > > > > > > > > for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. > 1541 > > > > > note) > > > > > > > includes > > > > > > > > > the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States > to > > > > > detain > > > > > > > covered > > > > > > > > > persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending > disposition > > > under > > > > > > > the law of > > > > > > > > > war. > > > > > > > > > > > (b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this > section is > > > any > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or > aided > > > the > > > > > > > > > terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, > 2001, or > > > > > > > harbored those > > > > > > > > > responsible for those attacks. > > > > > > > > > > > (2) A person who was a part of or substantially > supported > > > > > al-Qaeda, > > > > > > > > > the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in > > > > > > > hostilities against > > > > > > > > > the United States or its coalition partners, > including > > > any > > > > > > > person who has > > > > > > > > > committed a belligerent act or has directly supported > > > such > > > > > > > hostilities in > > > > > > > > > aid of such enemy forces. > > > > > > > > > > > (c) Disposition Under Law of War- The disposition of a > > > person > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > the law of war as described in subsection (a) may > include > > > the > > > > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > (1) Detention under the law of war without trial until > the > > > end > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use > of > > > > > Military > > > > > > > Force. > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States > Code > > > (as > > > > > > > > > amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 > (title > > > XVIII > > > > > of > > > > > > > Public Law > > > > > > > > > 111-84)). > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or > competent > > > > > tribunal > > > > > > > > > having lawful jurisdiction. > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person's > > > country > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > origin, any other foreign country, or any other > foreign > > > > > entity. > > > > > > > > > > > (d) Construction- Nothing in this section is intended to > > > limit > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > expand the authority of the President or the scope of > the > > > > > > > Authorization for > > > > > > > > > Use of Military Force. > > > > > > > > > > > (e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be > construed > > > to > > > > > > > affect > > > > > > > > > existing law or authorities relating to the detention of > > > United > > > > > > > States > > > > > > > > > citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, > or > > > any > > > > > other > > > > > > > persons > > > > > > > > > who are captured or arrested in the United States. > > > > > > > > > > > (f) Requirement for Briefings of Congress- The > Secretary of > > > > > Defense > > > > > > > > > shall regularly brief Congress regarding the > application of > > > the > > > > > > > authority > > > > > > > > > described in this section, including the organizations, > > > > > entities, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > individuals considered to be `covered persons' for > purposes > > > of > > > > > > > subsection > > > > > > > > > (b)(2). > > > > > > > > > > > SEC. 1022. MILITARY CUSTODY FOR FOREIGN AL-QAEDA > TERRORISTS. > > > > > > > > > > > (a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War- > > > > > > > > > > > (1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the > > > Armed > > > > > > > Forces > > > > > > > > > of the United States shall hold a person described in > > > > > paragraph > > > > > > > (2) who is > > > > > > > > > captured in the course of hostilities authorized by > the > > > > > > > Authorization for > > > > > > > > > Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in military > > > custody > > > > > > > pending > > > > > > > > > disposition under the law of war. > > > > > > > > > > > (2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) > shall > > > > > apply to > > > > > > > > > any person whose detention is authorized under > section > > > 1021 > > > > > who > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > determined-- > > > > > > > > > > > (A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an > associated > > > > > force > > > > > > > > > that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the > > > > > direction > > > > > > > of al-Qaeda; and > > > > > > > > > > > (B) to have participated in the course of planning or > > > carrying > > > > > out > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > attack or attempted attack against the United > States > > > or > > > > > its > > > > > > > coalition > > > > > > > > > partners. > > > > > > > > > > > (3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this > > > > > subsection, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > disposition of a person under the law of war has the > > > meaning > > > > > > > given in > > > > > > > > > section 1021(c), except that no transfer otherwise > > > described > > > > > in > > > > > > > paragraph > > > > > > > > > (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent > with > > > the > > > > > > > requirements > > > > > > > > > of section 1028. > > > > > > > > > > > (4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY- The President may > waive > > > the > > > > > > > > > requirement of paragraph (1) if the President > submits to > > > > > > > Congress a > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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