Little Tommy, That was two "Christy" posts yesterday. Both identical in content and information. Spam the board ONE more time and you are once again on moderation.
On Feb 17, 9:50 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews wrote: > > Oh how I wish that New Jersey Governor John Corzine had been re-elected > instead of this fat wingnut obstructionist Crisp Crisco. Civil rights > matters should never be placed on the ballot. The majority almost always > votes against the minority. All 31 states that voted, voted against > Marriage Equality. -T > > === > > Here is but one more example of LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews' is > hatred for our Republican form of government, and his wish for our Nation > to be a Communistic soci-economic political state. TommyTomTom hates > America, and will do all that he can to destroy our form of government. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gay Marriage, Passed, Awaits Veto by Christie > > > Oh how I wish that New Jersey Governor John Corzine had been > > re-elected instead of this fat wingnut obstructionist Crisp Crisco. > > Civil rights matters should never be placed on the ballot. The > > majority almost always votes against the minority. All 31 states that > > voted, voted against Marriage Equality. -T > > > Rich Schultz/Associated Press > > Assembly members Reed Gusciora and Bonnie Watson Coleman celebrated > > the passage of a same-sex-marriage bill on Thursday. > > > By KATE ZERNIKE > > > TRENTON — The New Jersey Assembly approved a bill legalizing same-sex > > marriage on Thursday, setting up a confrontation with Gov. Chris > > Christie, who promised a swift veto and defied the Legislature to put > > the issue before voters instead. > > > Related > > New Jersey Senate Votes to Legalize Gay Marriage (February 14, 2012) > > Political Memo: Christie Avoids All the Thorns in the Thicket of Gay > > Marriage (January 26, 2012) > > Times Topic: Same-Sex Marriage, Civil Unions, and Domestic Partnerships > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with us on Twitter for breaking news and headlines in New York. > > Readers’ Comments > > Share your thoughts. > > Post a Comment » > > Read All Comments (26) » > > In two hours of passionate debate, Democrats supporting the measure > > urged their colleagues to make history, comparing the fight for > > legalization of same-sex marriage to battles for women’s suffrage and > > against racism. > > > “We can make a giant leap forward today in the fight against one of > > the last legalized barriers to equal rights,” said Sheila Y. Oliver, > > the Assembly speaker, whose voice broke at several points as she > > exhorted her colleagues to support the bill. > > > The State Senate passed a similar bill on Monday; the Assembly vote > > was the first time the Legislature united in endorsing same-sex > > marriage. > > > And the vote, passing 42 to 33, underscored how much opinion has > > shifted since two years ago, when the Senate rejected a similar bill. > > New York State legalized same-sex marriage last year, and this month > > Washington State did so. The bill passed on Thursday would make New > > Jersey the eighth state that allows gay and lesbian couples to marry. > > > But advocates for the bill in New Jersey face a new fight: trying to > > win enough votes to override the governor’s expected veto. > > > Mr. Christie is a rising star in the Republican Party, in which any > > politician with national ambitions must consider social conservatives > > who oppose same-sex marriage. After New Jersey Democrats, who control > > the Legislature, said they would make same-sex marriage a top priority > > this year, the governor proposed putting the issue to voters in a > > referendum in November. > > > On Thursday, Mr. Christie declared the Legislature’s action merely “an > > exercise in theater.” > > > “I’ve given them an alternative,” said Mr. Christie, who spent the day > > holding a news conference to announce that WrestleMania was coming to > > MetLife Stadium in 2013 and appearing at a fund-raiser for a > > Republican running for the United States Senate. “Put it on the ballot > > and let the people decide.” > > > Democrats have accused him of avoiding an issue that could hurt his > > national prospects, and said they would refuse to pass the legislation > > required to put a referendum on the ballot. > > > Mr. Christie has 45 days to veto the bill. If he does, the Democrats > > will have nearly two years to muster the two-thirds majority needed to > > override it. > > > “We’re going to take the time we need, assisted by a changing world,” > > said Steven Goldstein, the chairman of Garden State Equality, a gay > > rights group. “Look at how the world has changed from two years ago.” > > > While the measure in the Senate found only 14 votes in 2010, this week > > it passed with 24. Assembly Democrats said they would have had two > > more votes, from Republicans, if two members had not been on vacation. > > Four Democrats voted against the bill on Thursday, and no Republicans > > voted in favor. > > > Mr. Goldstein said his group’s budget this year was one-tenth what it > > was two years ago. National advocacy groups did not put as much money > > into the battle, disappointed over the failure of the legislation two > > years ago. Instead, he said, supporters will push their case in > > person, reminding legislators that same-sex couples are their > > relatives and friends. > > > The governor’s refusal to support same-sex marriage could also > > backfire, some noted. > > > “The meanness question is going to come out,” said Assemblyman Reed > > Gusciora of Mercer County, one of two openly gay members of the > > Legislature and the bill’s chief sponsor. > > > An override would be easier in the Senate, where it would need 27 > > votes; in the Assembly, it would require 54. > > > The debate on Thursday, however, reflected the shifting landscape. > > Several legislators who are leaders in black churches that oppose > > same-sex marriage spoke of agonizing over the legislation but > > ultimately deciding to support it. > > > “I came to the conclusion that the people sent me here from my > > district, here to protect what’s right,” Assemblywoman Cleopatra G. > > Tucker, a Democrat from Newark, said. “To protect the rights of > > everyone.” > > > Related > > New Jersey Senate Votes to Legalize Gay Marriage (February 14, 2012) > > Political Memo: Christie Avoids All the Thorns in the Thicket of Gay > > Marriage (January 26, 2012) > > Times Topic: Same-Sex Marriage, Civil Unions, and Domestic Partnerships > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with us on Twitter for breaking news and headlines in New York. > > Readers’ Comments > > Share your thoughts. > > Post a Comment » > > Read All Comments (26) » > > Others echoed Assemblyman Louis Greenwald of Cherry Hill, the majority > > leader, saying that in 50 years, people will look back and wonder, > > “What was all the fuss about?” > > > Some said that there would be economic benefits in same-sex marriage, > > that weddings could mean $250 million in business for the state and > > 800 additional jobs. If the state does not pass it, they said, it > > risks losing residents and their tax revenue to New York, where > > same-sex marriage is legal. > > > Polls show that a slight majority of New Jersey voters support > > same-sex marriage. They also show that about the same percentage > > supports the governor’s idea of putting it on the ballot. > > > Democrats argue that same-sex marriage is a matter of civil rights, > > and that civil rights should not be subject to referendum. They note > > that the last time the state put a question of civil rights on the > > ballot, in 1915, the male voters of New Jersey declined to allow women > > the right to vote. > > > Democrats predict that a referendum would bring a flood of outside > > money from national groups opposed to same-sex marriage. It could also > > draw out conservative voters to lift the hopes of the Republican > > presidential nominee in a state that would otherwise be expected to > > tilt toward President Obama. > > > In speeches on Thursday, Republicans argued that the decision to > > change an institution as sacred as marriage was better made by voters > > than by the 121 members of the Legislature. > > > “I trust the people of New Jersey and I believe they should be allowed > > to voice their opinion in a vote,” said Assemblywoman Nancy F. Munoz > > of Summit. > > > As she spoke, a crowd, largely of Orthodox Jewish men in the balcony > > sprang to its feet and cheered. > > > The question of same-sex marriage continues to make its way through > > the state’s courts. In 2006, the State Supreme Court ruled that > > same-sex couples were entitled to the same protections as heterosexual > > couples, but left it up to the Legislature to decide how to guarantee > > those rights. The Legislature passed a civil unions law, but seven gay > > couples have sued the state, arguing that the law discriminates > > against them in matters like obtaining a mortgage or seeing partners > > in the hospital. > > > Senator Loretta Weinberg, a sponsor of the legislation, said, “Our > > legislature stood up in both houses and stood up on behalf of > > marriage.” > > > More: > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/nyregion/veto-awaits-new-jersey-bil... > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. 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