OK I get what you are saying. And i agree. The U.N. seems to be a favourite out for politicians these days to ignore the laws of their own countries. As happens with the E.U.. Here in Canada we have any group with a grudge running off to the U. N. and then saying that the U.N. decision has to be respected by out government and courts.
it's a pain in the ass. Probably to late to reform it. Better an organization of democracies That can work together. Bear On 11 March 2012 22:22, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > Bear, This has to do with Obama having claimed the right to use > OFFENSIVE weapons based on a UN resolution without invoking the war > powers act or calling for a declaration by congress. He in fact at > the time claimed that a UN resolution was all that he needed > regardless of the will of Congress. > > On Mar 11, 3:26 pm, Bear Bear <[email protected]> wrote: >> I suppose it could hing on your definition of "war". >> Does war have to be declared? Remember war was fought very differently >> in the 18th century. >> Boots on the ground? >> 1 air strike? 2? >> >> Did anyone try to impeach Kennedy for sending "advisers" to Viet Nam? >> >> I'm sure any decent lawyer could muddy the waters and string this out >> for years. >> >> Bear >> >> On 11 March 2012 16:28, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > This applies to EVERY President since Roosevelt, F. >> > My guess is that it will go nowhere -- not that it shouldn't go somewhere. >> >> > Regard$, >> > --MJ >> >> > “The Constitution vests the power of declaring war with Congress, therefore >> > no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they >> > have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure.” >> > -- George Washington >> >> > At 04:26 PM 3/11/2012, you wrote: >> >> > 2d Session >> >> > H. CON. RES. 107 >> > Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military >> > force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act >> > of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor >> > under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. >> >> > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES >> > March 7, 2012 >> >> > Mr. JONES submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was >> > referred to the Committee on the Judiciary >> >> > CONCURRENT RESOLUTION >> > Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military >> > force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act >> > of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor >> > under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. >> >> > Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress's >> > exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 >> > of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it >> >> > Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That >> > it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or >> > imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of >> > offensive military force by a President without prior and clear >> > authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress's exclusive >> > power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the >> > Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and >> > misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution. >> >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
