My comment and Mitts are identical.... yes his great grand father was a polygamist... so was Obamas FATHER...
On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Willard Milton Liar, Liar, Magic UnderPants on Fire! -T > > Hi Team! *? 2 ALL: > ROMNEY DENIES FAMILY CAME FROM MEXICAN POLYGAMIST COMMUNE - > > (above): Joseph Smith and wives > Romney's father, the late Michigan governor George Romney, was born > in Chihuahua, Mexico, > in 1907 to American citizens living in a Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-day Saints colony. > The Romney family had left the U.S. to avoid being prosecuted for > polygamy after laws against > the practice were enforced, and returned to the U.S. after the > Mexican Revolution broke out. > > Some family members stayed in Mexico and Mitt Romney has about 40 > relatives still living > south of the border. - Huffington Post > > Toby Harnden reports: > > A governor who backed Barack Obama in 2008 and was given a prominent > speaking role at the Democratic National Convention has said that Mitt > Romney could struggle in the November election because women 'are not > great fans of polygamy'. > > Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana, who was viewed as a possible > vice-presidential running mate for Obama four years ago, raised > Romney's Mormon faith by repeatedly stating that his father was 'born > into a polygamy commune in Mexico'. > > (above): Schweitzer, Romney > > The comments were quickly disavowed by an Obama spokeswoman but have > raised concerns among Republicans that the Obama campaign and its > allies will use Romney's Mormon faith as a means of attacking his > character. > > ...(Schweitzer) said, '86 per cent [of women are] not great fans of > polygamy'. He added: 'I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is > a polygamist and approves of [the] polygamy lifestyle, but his father > was born into [a] polygamy commune in Mexico'". > > Romney denies family came from Mexican polygamist commune - what are > your comments? > > Greg Dempseyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/ > Voice of the People > ===== > 'Romney's father was born into a polygamy commune in Mexico': > Montana's Democrat governor launches personal attack on Obama's > election rival > > By Toby Harnden > > Daily Mail > > PUBLISHED: 15:22 EST, 20 April 2012 | UPDATED: 16:47 EST, 20 April 2012 > > ...During his 2008 speech at the Democratic convention in Denver, > Schweitzer trumpeted his Cathoilc faith, saying: 'Like Senator Obama, > my family has roots in the Great Plains. > > 'My grandparents were immigrants who came to Montana with nothing more > than the clothes on their back, high hopes and faith in God.' > > Romney's father George W. Romney, who went on to become head of the > American Motor Company and governor of Michigan, was born in 1907 in a > settlement in Mexico that had been founded in the 1880s by Mormons > fleeing American anti-polygamy laws. > > The last polygamist in Romney's direct ancestry was his > great-grandfather Miles Park Romney, who had three wives. Romney's > paternal grandfather Gaskell was monogamous and the Mormon Church > outlawed polygamy in 1890. > > Five years ago, Romney, who has been married to his wife Ann for 42 > years, said: 'I have a great-great-grandfather. They were trying to > build a generation out there in the desert and so he took additional > as he was told to do. And I must admit, I can't imagine anything more > awful than polygamy.' Ann, whose father was a Welsh atheist, converted > to Mormonism before she married Mitt. > > A senior Romney adviser said he expected Democrats to use the > presumptive Republican nominee's faith against him. 'They'll take > advantage of whatever they can. > > 'Even if they never have to use the word Mormon, if there's a chance > it gives people a little bit of a doubt or erodes part of the > Republican base, they'll be happy to take it. But I don't think > they'll be caught with their hands in the cookie jar talking about > Mormonism.' > > Already, there are indications that the Obama campaign is prepared to > go after Romney's religion in subtle ways. His advisers declared > Mormonism 'off limits' after they were panned for portraying Romney as > 'weird'. But in recent days the word 'secretive' has been used about > him repeatedly - a charge often laid at the door of the Mormon Church. > > Richard Land, head of public policy for the Southern Baptist > Convention and a prominent evangelical figure who has met Romney > privately said: 'As far as I'm concerned, Mormonism isn't a Christian > faith. It's a different religion. But I and most evangelicals wouldn't > have a problem voting for a Mormon against Barack Obama.' > > He said that he believed personal faith should not be part of the > election and doubted the Obama campaign would 'comment on Romney's > religion frontally' but expected Obama's media allies to do so > eagerly. > > 'They're going to try to highlight all the more the exotic beliefs of > Mormons and hope to scare off enough independents to help Romney win.' > > Predicting 'the ugliest campaign in my lifetime, and I was born in > 1946', he said the press would attempt to get swing voters to ask > themselves: 'He believes in that? Wow, do I really want a president > who believes something like that?' > > In the US media, jibes about Mormon polygamy and 'magic underwear' > (observant Mormons like Romney wear what are known as temple > undergarments beneath their cloths) are commonplace and acceptable > whereas that mocking Jews or Muslims is considered beyond the pale. > > Romney is a former Mormon bishop who hails from one of the most > prominent families in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter Day Saints. > Mormons believes that early Christian leaders fell away from God's > truth and that it took the discovery of the Book of Mormon by Joseph > Smith, the self-proclaimed prophet who founded the church, to > 'restore' true Christianity. > > Smith is said to have discovered the sacred text in 1823. It had been > engraved on golden plates buried in a hill near his home in New York > that he had found after being guided there by an angle called Moroni. > > Mormons do not smoke tobacco, swear or drink coffee, tea or alcohol. > They conduct baptisms of the dead, usually of their ancestors but > also, most controversially, Holocaust victims (a practice the church > now outlaws). > > They believe that Jesus appeared to the Americas after the > resurrection and that there are three heavens. Blacks were not allowed > to be ordained into the Mormon Church until 1978. > > Romney and each of his five sons served for two years as Mormon > missionaries. In Romney's case, he was sent to France in the late > 1960s. Romney later joked: 'It's quite an experience to go to Bordeaux > and say, 'Give up your wine! I've got a great religion for you!'' > > A number of the tenets of Mormonism are regarded as bizarre by many > Americans and one of the biggest challenges Romney faced in the > primaries was that many evangelicals regarded Mormons as members of a > non-Christian cult. > > Romney lost primaries in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi > and Louisiana - the bible belt of the Deep South - though all these > states are virtually certain to back him in the general election. > > Aware of the widespread suspicion of his religion, Romney has shied > away from talking about it. He gave a speech in College Station, Texas > in December 2007, billed as the equivalent to John F. Kennedy's 1960 > address to allay fear about his Catholicism, in which he insisted that > 'no authorities of my church' would 'ever exert influence on > presidential decisions'. But even then he uttered the word Mormon only > once. > > During the Republican primary campaign, his advisers avoided almost > any mention of his faith. In January, a senior campaign official said > that he believed there was an anti-Mormon smear campaign afoot in > South Carolina but he wanted no public mention of it for fear of > aggravating the issue. > > The downside of this approach was that Romney's deep faith, the > observant life he has led and the family he has built are central to > understanding him. By barely referring to Mormonism - his core - it > was easy to believe he had no core. > Alex Castellanos, a veteran Republican strategist who was a top > adviser to Romney in 2008, said that Romney's faith could be turned > into an advantage. > > 'He's over the tough part on the Mormon issue. He cleared that hurdle > in the primaries.' Talking about his faith 'helps people to understand > that there's a real core to Mitt Romney, that he believes there's a > right and there's a wrong and he's lived his life the right way'. > > He added: 'The real window into Mitt Romney's heart is Ann Romney. The > window into his soul may be his faith. Seeing who he is as a human > being tells you how he's lived his life.' > > The current Romney adviser agreed, saying the campaign could to 'take > this perceived weakness and turn it into a strength' by emphasising > the tens of millions of dollars he has donated to his church (all > Mormons are required to tithe 10 percent of their income) and his > pastoral care of church members. > > 'We don't need to talk about Mormonism, we don't need to do a faith > speech. But we can talk about it in terms of who you are, about > family, about good works.' > > Read > more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132883/Democrats-begin-attac... > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
