I haven't yet perused the whole of this post yet but I felt the need
to make a few observations.
Yeah, I'm from that "other board".

#1 The authorof this piece is historically ignorant:
"Abe Lincoln taught Americans to fear the government. He laid waste to
the South as an object lesson: Washington’s authority is unassailable
-- and eternal. The union, at bayonet-point, forever. Like a bad
marriage from which there can be no escape save death."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
He seems to be completely unaware of historical precident, Please send
him links to Shay's rebellion.
He makes a few candid observations but then quickly looses his place
in making a central argument.

It would be better if he had made a central point but this is the
normal expectation for products of the government education system
these days.






On Apr 23, 6:23 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> Voting is Not the Problem… Americans Are the ProblemWritten byEric Peters
> Monday, 16 April 2012."Democracy" is the great moral system of our time 
> according to mainstream political thought. But whether the people vote to 
> impose tyranny upon themselves or it is imposed on them by a tyrant, the end 
> result is the same.People votefortoo many things. Mostly they vote to take 
> things from other people either their property or their freedom of action. 
> Each election in modern America is for all practical purposes a no-reserve 
> auction of other people’s stuff. Vote for me, says The Candidate and I will 
> giveyousome oftheirstuff. Or something even worse: Vote for me and I will 
> forcethemto do This or That.
> It is never phrased quite so honestly, but this is the essential character of 
> what goes on. Everything is up for bid. There is no off-limits. No “not for 
> sale at any price.”
> Apparently, the idea doesn’t appeal tomostAmericans anymore. Most Americans 
> view their fellow man with proprietary interest.
> And they, he.
> But the vote is just a mechanism. A tool. It is neither good nor bad in 
> itself. It ispeoplewho are bad. Envious, malicious, vengeful, controlling 
> people. Or simply ignorant people. Givethemthe franchise and nature will take 
> its course.
> Envious, malicious people vote for wealth transfers to themselves -- theft 
> byprocess, rendered lawful. You have more and I have less. Givememore.
> Voters with the itch to control their fellow man -- but lacking the courage 
> to do so directly -- get proxies to do it for them, via the ballot box. It 
> makes them feel good without requiring them to confront the nature of the 
> thing and of themselves. People who would never in a million years march over 
> to their neighbor’s house and knock a cigarette from his lips will 
> self-satisfiedly vote to have someone else do it for them -- never stopping 
> to consider that they have just given license for their neighbor to exact 
> revenge using precisely the same method.
> The simply ignorant, in their naivety, vote for laws that seem to them humane 
> and “liberal” -- never following the sequence of events down the line, to the 
> unfriendly end of thegunthat willimposetheir “humane” and “liberal” policies. 
> Or, if they are “conservatives,” for laws they may  genuinely believe will 
> “keep us safe.” Likewise never following the thought-chain to its necessary 
> conclusion. Never realizing what they’ve just endorsed and how it 
> willinevitablybe used in ways they may not like very much at all.
> But the franchise is  itself morally neutral. Like a gun. A gun can save a 
> life -- or take one. The gunitselfis neither good nor bad. It is thehandthat 
> wields it -- and themindthat controls it.
> And it is the minds of millions of Americans that’s at the root of our 
> predicament. Minds that have been molded (twisted) by great historical 
> forces, embodied by a few very specific persons:
> Abe Lincoln taught Americans tofearthe government. He laid waste to the South 
> as an object lesson: Washington’s authority is unassailable -- and eternal. 
> The union, at bayonet-point, forever. Like a bad marriage from which there 
> can be no escape save death.
> Prior to the war, most Americans still held to the curious notion that 
> government existed bytheirleave. It was their mererepresentative, charged 
> with a few specific tasks and no more. When thisrepresentativeexceeded its 
> mandate, it became immediately illegitimate -- a tyranny. The Southern states 
> took this literally, attempting to withdraw on the principle that legitimate 
> government exists by consent only -- and what was being done to them by the 
> rapidly growing Leviathan in DC was being done manifestlywithouttheir consent 
> and very much against their will. Hence, they exercised their right 
> assovereign statesto withhold consent and to sever the relationship. To 
> depart.
> Abe educated them.
> The principle of unlimited federal supremacy was established at Appomatox. 
> The formerly sovereignstates(plural) became little more than fiefdoms 
> ultimately owned -- because utterlycontrolled-- by the “monarch” in 
> Washington. The formerly free people of the several states became 
> citizen-subjects of the United States (singular) -- subject to its universal 
> authority. Oh, they were allowed to vote. But never given achoice.
> Millions of Americans, though beaten on the field, still denied the right of 
> Washington’s rule in their hearts -- where they remained free in spirit, at 
> least. They resented the newmassain Washington -- regarding him (rightly) as 
> a usurper, a tyrant, a fiend. It was understood they were ruled by force and 
> very much without their consent.
> Roughly four score and seven years later came FDR and another pivotal moment 
> in the changing (the warping) of the American mind. FDR taught browbeaten 
> Americans tolovethe government. To look upon it as a benevolent source of 
> Manna (sourceof the Manna always left unspoken). Hard times? Bad luck? 
> Washington can “help.” Over the ensuing decades, this became 
> institutionalized -- leading us to the present debacle of annual, every other 
> year and every fourth  year auctions presided over by the most loathsome 
> characters imaginable -- politicians -- made possible by an increasingly 
> loathsome -- because degenerated -- mob.
> Up for bidding: The property of your fellow man -- including even his 
> physical person. And as he bidsyou, you in your turn bid onhim.
> The auctioneer, meanwhile, collects his commission.
> Until enough people to make a difference recover their moral sense and 
> decline to partake these auctions will continue. More, they will increase in 
> rapacity as the crowd loses all scruple and demandseverythingwhich it 
> inevitably will. Because nothing is off the table. Then, of course, there 
> will benothing. At least, not for the screeching crowd. Everything will have 
> been consumed and not one of them will have a rightful reason to complain. He 
> who victimizes cannot object to being victimized in turn.
> And the auctioneer? He’ll end up owningeverything-- including you and 
> me.http://www.americandailyherald.com/pundits/eric-peters/item/voting-is-not-the-problem-americans-are-the-problem?category_id=198

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